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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Nicolai Stange <nstange@suse.de>
Cc: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>,
	'Taehee Yoo' <ap420073@gmail.com>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"kuba@kernel.org" <kuba@kernel.org>,
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	"wil6210@qti.qualcomm.com" <wil6210@qti.qualcomm.com>,
	"brcm80211-dev-list@cypress.com" <brcm80211-dev-list@cypress.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net 000/117] net: avoid to remove module when its debugfs is being used
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2020 09:45:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fd8aaf06b53f32eae7b5bdcec2f3ea9e1f419b1d.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v9fkgf4i.fsf@suse.de>

On Fri, 2020-10-09 at 07:09 +0200, Nicolai Stange wrote:
> Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net> writes:
> 
> > On Thu, 2020-10-08 at 15:59 +0000, David Laight wrote:
> > > From: Taehee Yoo
> > > > Sent: 08 October 2020 16:49
> > > > 
> > > > When debugfs file is opened, its module should not be removed until
> > > > it's closed.
> > > > Because debugfs internally uses the module's data.
> > > > So, it could access freed memory.
> > > > 
> > > > In order to avoid panic, it just sets .owner to THIS_MODULE.
> > > > So that all modules will be held when its debugfs file is opened.
> > > 
> > > Can't you fix it in common code?
> 
> Probably not: it's the call to ->release() that's faulting in the Oops
> quoted in the cover letter and that one can't be protected by the
> core debugfs code, unfortunately.
> 
> There's a comment in full_proxy_release(), which reads as
> 
> 	/*
> 	 * We must not protect this against removal races here: the
> 	 * original releaser should be called unconditionally in order
> 	 * not to leak any resources. Releasers must not assume that
> 	 * ->i_private is still being meaningful here.
> 	 */

Yeah, found that too now :-)

> > Yeah I was just wondering that too - weren't the proxy_fops even already
> > intended to fix this?
> 
> No, as far as file_operations are concerned, the proxy fops's intent was
> only to ensure that the memory the file_operations' ->owner resides in
> is still valid so that try_module_get() won't splat at file open
> (c.f. [1]).

Right.

> You're right that the default "full" proxy fops do prevent all
> file_operations but ->release() from getting invoked on removed files,
> but the motivation had not been to protect the file_operations
> themselves, but accesses to any stale data associated with removed files
> ([2]).

:)

I actually got this to work in a crazy way, I'll send something out but
I'm sure it's a better idea to add the .owner everywhere, but please
let's do it in fewer than hundreds of patches :-)

johannes


  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-09  7:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-08 15:48 [PATCH net 000/117] net: avoid to remove module when its debugfs is being used Taehee Yoo
2020-10-08 15:59 ` David Laight
2020-10-08 16:14   ` Johannes Berg
2020-10-08 16:37     ` Taehee Yoo
2020-10-09  5:38       ` Nicolai Stange
2020-10-09 10:07         ` Taehee Yoo
2020-10-09  5:09     ` Nicolai Stange
2020-10-09  7:45       ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2020-10-09 10:15         ` Taehee Yoo
2020-10-09 10:21           ` Johannes Berg
2020-10-09 10:41             ` [RFC] debugfs: protect against rmmod while files are open Johannes Berg
2020-10-09 10:48               ` Johannes Berg
2020-10-09 10:56                 ` David Laight
2020-10-09 10:56                   ` Johannes Berg
2020-10-09 11:15                   ` gregkh
2020-10-09 15:33             ` [PATCH net 000/117] net: avoid to remove module when its debugfs is being used Steve deRosier
2020-10-09  7:53       ` [CRAZY-RFF] debugfs: track open files and release on remove Johannes Berg
2020-10-09  8:03         ` Greg KH
2020-10-09  8:06           ` Johannes Berg
2020-10-09  8:16             ` Greg KH
2020-10-09  8:19               ` Johannes Berg
2020-10-09  8:34                 ` David Laight
2020-10-09  8:44                   ` Johannes Berg
2020-10-09  9:00                     ` David Laight
2020-10-09  8:47                 ` Greg KH
2020-10-09  8:48                   ` Johannes Berg
2020-10-10  9:38                     ` Greg KH
2020-10-10 10:47                       ` Johannes Berg

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