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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>,
	Linux Netdev List <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: IPv4/IPv6 sysctl unregistration deadlock
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 22:10:33 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m163ixk9t2.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090225084321.GA1101@gondor.apana.org.au> (Herbert Xu's message of "Wed\, 25 Feb 2009 16\:43\:21 +0800")

Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> writes:

> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 08:18:47AM +0100, Patrick McHardy wrote:
>>
>> Unfortunately its more complicated than I thought because of
>> device renames, where the sysctl pointer is reused after
>> unregistration and the rename/unregistration/re-registration
>> should be atomic. Deferring unregistration means we can't perform
>> the new registration immediately unless we allow multiple
>> registrations for a single device to be active simulaneously,
>> which introduces a whole new set of problems.
>
> Good point.
>
>> Simply ignoring the request during unregistration doesn't seem
>> so bad after all, the main problem is that it intoduces a different
>> race on renames where a write to the "forwarding" file returns
>> success, but the change doesn't take effect. We could return
>> -ENOENT, but that seems a bit strange after open() returned success.
>> Maybe -EBUSY, although I would prefer to make this transparent
>> to userspace.
>
> I'd like to avoid that for the rename case just because shell
> scripts know how to deal with echo foo > /nonexist/file but not
> necessarily a failed echo on write/close.
>
>> I think I'm stuck. Will rethink it after some coffee :)
>
> Yes we need more coffee :)

How does adding a rename operation to sysctl sound?

I am a little concerned that if we have this issue with sysctl
we also have it with proc and sysfs as well.

Although I admit I don't understand it yet.

Eric



  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-02-26  6:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-25  5:23 IPv4/IPv6 sysctl unregistration deadlock Patrick McHardy
2009-02-25  6:19 ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-25  6:23   ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-25  7:18     ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-25  8:43       ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-26  6:06         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-02-26  6:10         ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2009-02-26  6:22           ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-26  7:18             ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-02-26 16:49               ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-26 19:01                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-02-26 20:24                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-27  0:59                 ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-27  1:25                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-27 18:26                 ` Ben Greear
2009-02-27 18:38                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-03-02 11:07                     ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-02 11:21                       ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-02 22:11                     ` Ben Greear
2009-03-02 22:20                       ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-02 22:47                         ` David Miller
2009-03-02 23:03                           ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-03  8:48                             ` David Miller
2009-03-08  3:36                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-02-26 16:55       ` Stephen Hemminger

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