From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@lhnet.ca>,
Octavian Purdila <opurdila@ixiacom.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, Cosmin Ratiu <cratiu@ixiacom.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] sysfs directory scaling: rbtree for dirent name lookups
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:28:32 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m18wen5jlb.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091103160715.GD23857@kroah.com> (Greg KH's message of "Tue\, 3 Nov 2009 08\:07\:15 -0800")
Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> writes:
> On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 07:14:33AM +0100, Eric Dumazet wrote:
>> Greg KH a ?crit :
>> > On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 11:31:30AM -0500, Benjamin LaHaise wrote:
>> >> Use an rbtree in sysfs_dirent to speed up file lookup times
>> >>
>> >> Systems with large numbers (tens of thousands and more) of network
>> >> interfaces stress the sysfs code in ways that make the linear search for
>> >> a name match take far too long. Avoid this by using an rbtree.
>> >
>> > What kind of speedups are you seeing here? And do these changes cause a
>> > memory increase due to the structure changes which outweigh the
>> > speedups?
>> >
>> > What kind of test are you doing to reproduce this?
>> >
>>
>> Its curious because in my tests the biggest problems come from
>> kernel/sysctl.c (__register_sysctl_paths) consuming 80% of cpu
>> in following attempt to create 20.000 devices
>>
>> (disable hotplug before trying this, and ipv6 too !)
>> modprobe dummy numdummies=20000
>>
>> I believe we should address __register_sysctl_paths() scalability
>> problems too.
>
> But registering 20000 devices is a far different problem from using
> those 20000 devices :)
>
> I think the "use the device" path should be the one we care the most
> about fixing up, as that is much more common than the register path for
> all users.
Definitely. Of the three proc sysctl and sysfs. sysctl tends to have
the worst costs across the board. They are all rarely used so a lot
of what gets hit when scaling are rare path events that even the most
horrible code works fine on small systems.
Usually slow registration times indicate an O(N^2) or worse data
structure for filename lookup.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-03 22:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-01 16:31 [PATCH 1/3] sysfs directory scaling: rbtree for dirent name lookups Benjamin LaHaise
2009-11-01 16:32 ` [PATCH 2/3] sysfs directory scaling: doubly linked list for dirents Benjamin LaHaise
2009-11-01 16:33 ` [PATCH 2/3] sysfs directory scaling: count number of children dirs Benjamin LaHaise
2009-11-03 3:50 ` [PATCH 1/3] sysfs directory scaling: rbtree for dirent name lookups Greg KH
2009-11-03 6:14 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-03 7:01 ` [PATCH] sysctl: reduce ram usage by 40 % Eric Dumazet
2009-11-03 10:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-03 16:07 ` [PATCH 1/3] sysfs directory scaling: rbtree for dirent name lookups Greg KH
2009-11-03 16:38 ` Octavian Purdila
2009-11-03 16:45 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2009-11-03 17:56 ` Greg KH
2009-11-03 22:28 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2009-11-03 20:01 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2009-11-03 21:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-03 21:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-03 21:56 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2009-11-03 22:06 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-03 21:52 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2009-11-03 22:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-03 10:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
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