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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Denys Fedoryschenko <denys@visp.net.lb>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC] arp announce, arp_proxy and windows ip conflict verification
Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:36:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1ab3m255k.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200907012201.13760.denys@visp.net.lb> (Denys Fedoryschenko's message of "Wed\, 1 Jul 2009 22\:01\:13 +0300")

Denys Fedoryschenko <denys@visp.net.lb> writes:

> On Wednesday 01 July 2009 20:40:08 Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> The only case where I can imagine proxying the default route would even
>> approach being correct is on a point to point link.  But that seems
>> pointless as you could simply have a default route to the other side.
>>
>> Eric
>
> It seems Linux proxy_arp behavior is also RFC 1027 non-conformant.
>
> Quote from RFC:
>
>     In 4.3BSD (and probably in other operating systems), a default route
>     is possible.  This default route specifies an address to forward a
> !   packet to when no other route is found.  The default route must not
> !   be used when checking for a route to the target host of an ARP
> !   request.  If the default route were used, the check would always
>     succeed.  But the host specified by the default route is unlikely to
>     know about subnet routing (since it is usually an Internet gateway),
>     and thus packets sent to it will probably be lost.  This special
>     case in the routing lookup method is the only implementation change
>     needed to the routing mechanism.
>
>
>
> If i have linux host with 
> eth0 10.0.0.1/24
> eth1 10.0.1.1/24
>
> sysctl -w net.ipv4.conf.eth1.proxy_arp=1
>
> from other host in same ethernet segment eth1
>
> Xpernet_137 ~ # arping -I eth1 2.4.6.8
> ARPING to 2.4.6.8 from 1.0.0.1 via eth1
> Unicast reply from 2.4.6.8 [0:5:5d:2f:9b:ba] 501.685ms
> Unicast reply from 2.4.6.8 [0:5:5d:2f:9b:ba] 0.198ms
>
> And RFC define to not do that (use default route for proxy_arp).

We agree that proxy_arp for the default route is problem behavior.

The question is can you configure proxy_arp to not do that in your
configuration?

There is the medium_id tunable and the per interface proxy_arp tunable.

Eric


  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-02 20:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-01 11:44 [RFC] arp announce, arp_proxy and windows ip conflict verification Denys Fedoryschenko
2009-03-13 23:02 ` David Miller
2009-06-30 22:55 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-30 22:54   ` Denys Fedoryschenko
     [not found]     ` <m1iqicyjmr.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>
2009-07-01  9:00       ` Denys Fedoryschenko
2009-07-01  9:42       ` Denys Fedoryschenko
2009-07-01 17:40         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-07-01 18:12           ` Denys Fedoryschenko
2009-07-01 19:01           ` Denys Fedoryschenko
2009-07-02 20:36             ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2009-07-02 20:51             ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-07-02 21:22               ` Denys Fedoryschenko
2009-07-02 22:18                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-07-02 23:03                   ` Denys Fedoryschenko
2009-07-02 23:23                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-07-02 23:46                       ` Denys Fedoryschenko
2009-07-03  1:38                         ` David Miller
2009-07-03  3:14                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-07-03 11:02                           ` Denys Fedoryschenko
2009-07-03 20:20                             ` David Miller
2009-07-03 20:37                               ` Denys Fedoryschenko
2009-07-04  0:46                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-07-04  7:55                                   ` Denys Fedoryschenko
2009-07-04 15:00                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-07-04 15:03                                       ` Denys Fedoryschenko
2009-07-04 21:57                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-07-04 22:00                                           ` Denys Fedoryschenko
2009-07-04 23:22                                             ` Mark Smith
2009-07-05  0:07                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-07-05  0:28                                                 ` Denys Fedoryschenko
2009-07-05  6:16                                                 ` Mark Smith
2009-07-04 23:47                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-07-03  1:34                     ` David Miller
2009-07-02 23:13                   ` Denys Fedoryschenko
2009-07-01  2:27   ` [PATCH] Revert "ipv4: arp announce, arp_proxy and windows ip conflict verification" Eric W. Biederman
2009-07-01  3:10     ` David Miller

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