From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) Subject: Re: Network virtualization/isolation Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 08:45:42 -0700 Message-ID: References: <453F8800.9070603@fr.ibm.com> <1165155198.3517.86.camel@localhost> <200612041819.01017.dim@openvz.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: hadi@cyberus.ca, Daniel Lezcano , devel@openvz.org, Linux Containers , Stephen Hemminger , netdev@vger.kernel.org, Cedric Goater Return-path: Received: from ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com ([166.70.28.69]:55067 "EHLO ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S937026AbWLDPqe (ORCPT ); Mon, 4 Dec 2006 10:46:34 -0500 To: Dmitry Mishin In-Reply-To: <200612041819.01017.dim@openvz.org> (Dmitry Mishin's message of "Mon, 4 Dec 2006 18:19:00 +0300") Sender: netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org List-Id: netdev.vger.kernel.org Dmitry Mishin writes: > On Sunday 03 December 2006 19:00, Eric W. Biederman wrote: >> Ok. Just a quick summary of where I see the discussion. >> >> We all agree that L2 isolation is needed at some point. > As we all agreed on this, may be it is time to send patches one-by-one? > For the beggining, I propose to resend Cedric's empty namespace patch as base > for others - it is really empty, but necessary in order to move further. > > After this patch and the following net namespace unshare patch will be > accepted, I could send network devices virtualization patches for review and > discussion. > > What do you think? I think sending out these patches for review sounds great. For merge order I think enabling the unshare/clone flags to anyone but developers should be about the last thing we do. Starting with clone/unshare sounds to me like hitching up the cart before it is built. I really need to focus on finishing up the pid namespace, so except for a little review and conversation I'm not going to help much on the network side. Of course I need to mess with unix domain sockets to properly implement the pid namespace. Because of the pid credential passing. Eric