From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: hans.schillstrom@ericsson.com, daniel.lezcano@free.fr,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, Octavian Purdila <opurdila@ixiacom.com>
Subject: Re: BUG ? ipip unregister_netdevice_many()
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:35:31 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1lj60oc5o.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101014.080907.189690627.davem@davemloft.net> (David Miller's message of "Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:09:07 -0700 (PDT)")
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> writes:
> From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:20:28 -0700
>
>> With the network namespace support we limit the scope of the test of
>> the invalidate to just a single network namespace, and as such
>> rt_is_expired stops being true for every cache entry. So we cannot
>> unconditionally throw away entire chains.
>>
>> All of which can be either done by network namespace equality or by
>> rt_is_expired(). Although Denis picked rt_is_expired() when he made
>> his change.
>
> Right, and I choose to use namespace equality which will completely
> compile into no code at all when namespace support is not in the
> kernel.
>
> Therefore, making the non-namespace case equivalent and as efficient
> as it always was.
Almost you still have the hash list inversion, which means you have
to at look at the rtable entry even on a one list long hash chain.
Perhaps I am looking at it wrong but once you look at the entries
I don't see the difference in the number of cache line faults
between one variant of the code and the other.
>> The only place it makes a noticable difference in practice is what
>> happens when we do batched deleletes of lots of network devices in
>> different network namespaces.
>>
>> During batched network device deletes in fib_netdev_event we do
>> rt_cache_flush(dev_net(dev), -1) for each network device. and then a
>> final rt_cache_flush_batch() to remove the invalidated entries. These
>> devices can be from multiple network namespaces, so I suspect that is
>> a savings worth having.
>
> How can it make a real difference even in this case? We'll obliterate
> all the entries, and then on subsequent passes we'll find nothing
> matching that namespace any more.
>
> Show me performance tests that show it makes any difference, please.
Octavian did you happen to measure the performance difference when you
added batching of routing table flushes?
>> So if we are going to change the tests we need to do something with
>> rt_cache_flush_batch(). Further I do not see what is confusing about
>> a test that asks if the routing cache entry is unusable. Is
>> rt_cache_expired() a bad name?
>
> It's not a bad name, it's just an unnecessary test that we don't need
> to even make in this specific place.
As long as we do something that is correct in the batched flush case
I am happy either way.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-10-14 18:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-07 8:48 BUG ? ipip unregister_netdevice_many() Hans Schillstrom
2010-10-08 11:19 ` Daniel Lezcano
2010-10-08 11:53 ` Hans Schillstrom
2010-10-08 12:28 ` Hans Schillstrom
2010-10-08 15:53 ` Daniel Lezcano
2010-10-08 16:17 ` Daniel Lezcano
2010-10-08 16:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-10-08 17:29 ` Daniel Lezcano
2010-10-08 17:47 ` Daniel Lezcano
2010-10-08 16:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-10-08 17:20 ` David Miller
2010-10-08 17:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-10-12 20:05 ` David Miller
2010-10-13 11:19 ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-10-13 21:58 ` David Miller
2010-10-14 6:41 ` Hans Schillstrom
2010-10-13 22:16 ` Daniel Lezcano
2010-10-13 23:23 ` David Miller
2010-10-14 3:57 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-10-14 23:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-10-14 4:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-10-14 4:50 ` David Miller
2010-10-14 5:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-10-14 15:09 ` David Miller
2010-10-14 18:35 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2010-10-08 16:51 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-10-08 16:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
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2010-10-14 19:21 Octavian Purdila
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