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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v3] Unprivileged: Disable raising of privileges
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:36:57 -0800
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Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> writes:

>> Added bprm->nosuid to make remove the need to add
>> duplicate error prone checks.  This ensures that
>> the disabling of suid executables is exactly the
>> same as MNT_NOSUID.
>
> Another fine example of why we have security hooks so that we don't get a
> kernel full of other "random security idea of the day" hacks.

Well it comes from plan 9.  Except there they just simply did not
implement suid.  What causes you to think dropping the ability
to execute suid executables is a random security idea of the day?

Eric