From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) Subject: Re: RFC: disablenetwork facility. (v4) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:26:02 -0800 Message-ID: References: <20091229050114.GC14362@heat> <20091229151146.GA32153@us.ibm.com> <3e8340490912290805s103fb789y13acea4a84669b20@mail.gmail.com> <20091229211139.0732a0c1@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20091229223631.GB22578@us.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Alan Cox , Benny Amorsen , Bryan Donlan , Michael Stone , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, Andi Kleen , David Lang , Oliver Hartkopp , Herbert Xu , Valdis Kletnieks , Evgeniy Polyakov , "C. Scott Ananian" , James Morris , Bernie Innocenti , Mark Seaborn , Randy Dunlap , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Am=E9rico?= Wang , Tetsuo Handa , Samir Bellabes , Casey Schaufler , Pavel Machek , Al V To: "Serge E. Hallyn" Return-path: In-Reply-To: <20091229223631.GB22578@us.ibm.com> (Serge E. Hallyn's message of "Tue\, 29 Dec 2009 16\:36\:31 -0600") Sender: linux-security-module-owner@vger.kernel.org List-Id: netdev.vger.kernel.org "Serge E. Hallyn" writes: > Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm@xmission.com): >> Alan Cox writes: >> >> >> > Execute != read. The executable file may contain secrets which must not >> >> > be available to the user running the setuid program. If you fail the >> >> > setuid, the user will be able to ptrace() and then the secret is >> >> > revealed. >> >> > >> >> > It's amazing how many security holes appear from what seems like a very >> >> > simple request. >> >> >> >> Do we have a security hole in nosuid mount option? >> >> Can someone write a patch to fix it? >> > >> > If a setuid app can read a key when its erroneously not set setuid then >> > the user can read it too. >> > >> > Anything you can do with ptrace you can do yourself ! >> >> Now that I think about it this is really something completely separate >> from setuid. This is about being able to read the text segment with >> ptrace when you on have execute permissions on the file. >> >> I just skimmed through fs/exec.c and we set the undumpable process >> flag in that case so ptrace should not work in that case. > > And in fact you can't do a new ptrace_attach, but if you're already > tracing the task when it execs the unreadable-but-executable file, > then the ptrace can continue. > > Just looking at the code, it appears 2.2 was the same way (though I > could be missing where it used to enforce that). > > So, is that intended? What exactly would we do about it if not? > Just refuse exec of a unreadable-but-executable file if we're > being traced? In common cap we drop the new capabilities if we are being ptraced. Look for brm->unsafe. Eric