From: Donald Hunter <donald.hunter@gmail.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
Jacob Keller <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>,
donald.hunter@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 06/11] doc/netlink: Document the sub-message format for netlink-raw
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2023 11:32:53 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m24jgn8xlm.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231211175634.3ac1ea07@kernel.org> (Jakub Kicinski's message of "Mon, 11 Dec 2023 17:56:34 -0800")
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> writes:
> On Mon, 11 Dec 2023 16:40:34 +0000 Donald Hunter wrote:
>> +Sub-messages
>> +------------
>> +
>> +Several raw netlink families such as rt_link and tc have type-specific
>> +sub-messages. These sub-messages can appear as an attribute in a top-level or a
>> +nested attribute space.
>> +
>> +A sub-message attribute uses the value of another attribute as a selector key to
>> +choose the right sub-message format. For example if the following attribute has
>> +already been decoded:
>
> We may want to explain why we call this thing "sub-message". How about:
>
> Several raw netlink families such as rt_link and tc use attribute
> nesting as an abstraction to carry module specific information.
> Conceptually it looks as follows::
>
> [OUTER NEST OR MESSAGE LEVEL]
> [GENERIC ATTR 1]
> [GENERIC ATTR 2]
> [GENERIC ATTR 3]
> [GENERIC ATTR - wrapper]
> [MODULE SPECIFIC ATTR 1]
> [MODULE SPECIFIC ATTR 2]
>
> The GENERIC ATTRs at the outer level are defined in the core (or rt_link
> or core TC), while specific drivers / TC classifiers, qdiscs etc. can
> carry their own information wrapped in the "GENERIC ATTR - wrapper".
> Even though the example above shows attributes nesting inside the wrapper,
> the modules generally have full freedom of defining the format of the nest.
> In practice payload of the wrapper attr has very similar characteristics
> to a netlink message. It may contain a fixed header / structure, netlink
> attributes, or both. Because of those shared characteristics we refer
> to the payload of the wrapper attribute as a sub-message.
I'll incorporate into next revision. Thanks!
>> +A sub-message attribute uses the value of another attribute as a selector key to
>> +choose the right sub-message format. For example if the following attribute has
>> +already been decoded:
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-12-12 11:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-12-11 16:40 [PATCH net-next v2 00/11] tools/net/ynl: Add 'sub-message' support to ynl Donald Hunter
2023-12-11 16:40 ` [PATCH net-next v2 01/11] tools/net/ynl-gen-rst: Use bullet lists for attribute-set entries Donald Hunter
2023-12-11 23:28 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-12 11:27 ` Donald Hunter
2023-12-12 16:11 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-11 16:40 ` [PATCH net-next v2 02/11] tools/net/ynl-gen-rst: Sort the index of generated netlink specs Donald Hunter
2023-12-11 23:30 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-12 11:30 ` Donald Hunter
2023-12-12 16:13 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-12 20:42 ` Breno Leitao
2023-12-11 16:40 ` [PATCH net-next v2 03/11] doc/netlink: Regenerate netlink .rst files if ynl-gen-rst changes Donald Hunter
2023-12-11 23:30 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-12 20:39 ` Breno Leitao
2023-12-12 21:48 ` Donald Hunter
2023-12-11 16:40 ` [PATCH net-next v2 04/11] tools/net/ynl: Use consistent array index expression formatting Donald Hunter
2023-12-11 23:30 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-11 16:40 ` [PATCH net-next v2 05/11] doc/netlink: Add sub-message support to netlink-raw Donald Hunter
2023-12-11 23:37 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-12 11:30 ` Donald Hunter
2023-12-11 16:40 ` [PATCH net-next v2 06/11] doc/netlink: Document the sub-message format for netlink-raw Donald Hunter
2023-12-12 1:56 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-12 11:32 ` Donald Hunter [this message]
2023-12-11 16:40 ` [PATCH net-next v2 07/11] tools/net/ynl: Add 'sub-message' attribute decoding to ynl Donald Hunter
2023-12-12 2:00 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-11 16:40 ` [PATCH net-next v2 08/11] tools/net/ynl: Add binary and pad support to structs for tc Donald Hunter
2023-12-12 2:04 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-12 11:36 ` Donald Hunter
2023-12-11 16:40 ` [PATCH net-next v2 09/11] doc/netlink/specs: add sub-message type to rt_link family Donald Hunter
2023-12-11 16:40 ` [PATCH net-next v2 10/11] doc/netlink/specs: Add a spec for tc Donald Hunter
2023-12-11 16:40 ` [PATCH net-next v2 11/11] tools/net/ynl-gen-rst: Add sub-messages to generated docs Donald Hunter
2023-12-12 20:42 ` Breno Leitao
2023-12-11 23:32 ` [PATCH net-next v2 00/11] tools/net/ynl: Add 'sub-message' support to ynl Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-12 11:38 ` Donald Hunter
2023-12-12 16:14 ` Jakub Kicinski
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