From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-wm1-f43.google.com (mail-wm1-f43.google.com [209.85.128.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 530B4143C6E for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2024 08:56:54 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=209.85.128.43 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1723625815; cv=none; b=EfTbaG5dKyBaUXZoomYLCUyltTMbB+Ehtr9rVMqaZkb1r/BujG37yKgpEAegGpdKJLet2u+2/mEdCs8Aeyspihejxs3TvgFC+zOM2jX7TTjMcvEPloYKjEhC4f/CKxm6Ys6yT1eJXBtFMhRSxEaGYabwMkmgQ9ixiaNuMmvIQws= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1723625815; c=relaxed/simple; bh=Q5NNilpNu3/6R95GKpQbDjGnmR03pyw0FH1KvxcLeo8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Date:Message-ID:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=i8CricwZ/4iE8K8NwvOH1hR20kRX4BX7jqLWNFlUObvrMZ0SLHvjGgmbXgmiqR1CjY3UMuyTwGw8HnjuzKJiecEL6oiuWbkfV39Jrkgf+hQg3DB+nfc/YCxFC5FW5rIxl+C3Mxpd3syg+qPrbm4cLoCORRFyjLGG2SyGq47ixgA= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=gmail.com; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b=bMueW8Bn; arc=none smtp.client-ip=209.85.128.43 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=gmail.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="bMueW8Bn" Received: by mail-wm1-f43.google.com with SMTP id 5b1f17b1804b1-42812945633so49510575e9.0 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2024 01:56:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1723625812; x=1724230612; darn=vger.kernel.org; h=mime-version:user-agent:references:message-id:date:in-reply-to :subject:cc:to:from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=+x9PmNgOCdYK8ozABh+6LvW6sydPCuVHsQVVMcIdI6Y=; b=bMueW8BntnhasD+IA0QXt3Ex9wyF1176X3OaUprqLZrZ1osQWbr5Vy3JE1Dr/qLCtc n2QQmxLCAanGyiw3kq/InsmkoOsHzT1iUQ+OEOWk+UwcHf+9TX3m6+M/54Ero8BBGnR4 sJh5rCCMZ4jlAPtJsjRCyWojf+wf1ho5bfQNiTzOcx7t4Z/x6MMW4sDvRNxPB6s5gl8m MUVFrCU9KdcJTeRIznBsRgQs8Gx0j5DOgb07Is32wPQB8v1Evz6p2um2BWIx9Hhz8jAN tIr4VK6huTa8Og5yqXMaGWTeu92W2toiP5fqFVwaAfXbTFjFJHReL0UB4t8afVhyMK+r brcg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1723625812; x=1724230612; h=mime-version:user-agent:references:message-id:date:in-reply-to :subject:cc:to:from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=+x9PmNgOCdYK8ozABh+6LvW6sydPCuVHsQVVMcIdI6Y=; b=hAPLUYYwRBVxsOjuk0iyTF2HIHnrT8R/gBDtf0ePVRCPuGFjFA2mGGYrXm12pJNjQQ 4fnJs8rPPG6r2FRGHy0Yt4CR0LIo8PYLay2kXI19/Khs/TEZ1u++WAJHYExoAp6nNZZK uOMUt6hFqjxCu8ej8bWc664T8NJvniTQ/NLhaSKs7s1oXKCeumx8xTprEI7Hn9Qp8ZAU uChk4lZ//XNbeHpIENhIrSNct7MDPKTkw8tCyYHKdexAZgaMQ9aWtTnByTselZ5Jp96y 2+CdJPlv1VBzm9eWSQsP0eyVcaE5Qc7vJv6q0R4vBGo7K43dAJf/hRBHirCjywn4FzdT yqjg== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCXGoeFnU/yXk/8D0whUzZq45S197bG/bKV5I2E9qPLD3tYbIAtVVcwSn1yz84KwjEWvFlVlXIM1myBZA5UoUQwpj8qqGtEA X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwJtlxOBqzD5b0t3Qv5eaJ8O9WAE5q7jisF5VVKVxeIwRbxxi0Q hxJcHoZji9eCaf+QD46LaeVyb/WktwYCnMx4F0AuYZLknVYLP3WK X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFXrV4FHybsxOvB6FxTbI7+KiQOIqTUVdRNV9kRMMdaf/FbNGN2cuqtVhJJp20SCfE2zpdC4g== X-Received: by 2002:adf:e304:0:b0:35f:d70:6193 with SMTP id ffacd0b85a97d-371777f61e9mr1388186f8f.41.1723625812126; Wed, 14 Aug 2024 01:56:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imac ([2a02:8010:60a0:0:5991:634d:1e:51b4]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ffacd0b85a97d-36e4c36b874sm12435645f8f.1.2024.08.14.01.56.50 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 14 Aug 2024 01:56:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Donald Hunter To: Jakub Kicinski Cc: Paolo Abeni , Jiri Pirko , netdev@vger.kernel.org, Madhu Chittim , Sridhar Samudrala , Simon Horman , John Fastabend , Sunil Kovvuri Goutham , Jamal Hadi Salim Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 02/12] netlink: spec: add shaper YAML spec In-Reply-To: <20240812082544.277b594d@kernel.org> (Jakub Kicinski's message of "Mon, 12 Aug 2024 08:25:44 -0700") Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 18:12:52 +0100 Message-ID: References: <13747e9505c47d88c22a12a372ea94755c6ba3b2.1722357745.git.pabeni@redhat.com> <8819eae1-8491-40f6-a819-8b27793f9eff@redhat.com> <74a14ded-298f-4ccc-aa15-54070d3a35b7@redhat.com> <20240812082544.277b594d@kernel.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Jakub Kicinski writes: > On Mon, 12 Aug 2024 16:58:33 +0200 Paolo Abeni wrote: >> > It's a tree, so perhaps just stick with tree terminology, everyone is >> > used to that. Makes sense? One way or another, this needs to be >> > properly described in docs, all terminology. That would make things more >> > clear, I believe. >> >> @Jakub, would you be ok with: >> >> 'inputs' -> 'leaves' >> 'output' -> 'node' >> ? > > I think the confusion is primarily about the parent / child. > input and output should be very clear, IMO. input / output seems the most intuitive of the different terms that have been suggested.