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From: Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Harvey Harrison" <harvey.harrison@gmail.com>,
	"Håkon Løvdal" <hlovdal@gmail.com>,
	"Hannes Eder" <hannes@hanneseder.net>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/27] drivers/net: fix sparse warnings: make do-while a compound statement
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:18:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3hc4usco9.fsf@maximus.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0812231008350.3535@localhost.localdomain> (Linus Torvalds's message of "Tue\, 23 Dec 2008 10\:08\:50 -0800 \(PST\)")

Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> writes:

> It's more than that. I added the check after some person who had been 
> programming the kernel (and thus was supposedly fluent in C) literally 
> could not parse a macro that had "do x while (y)" in it.

A literally that simple macro, or a complicated one?


I'm all for using brackets when there is / could be some possibility
of increasing code readability.

E.g. I always use parentheses in a nested if-if, because

	if (x)
		if (y)
			a;
		else
			c;

may be confusing, especially if formatted differently.

	if (x)
		a;
	else if (y)
		b;
	etc.

is simple and unambiguous and I don't put the braces.

So is a case like
	do
		x;
	while (y);
It can't be made more clear with brackets.

IOW: improving the style is great. Changing it only to silence some
tool is not.

> Another example of this is "sizeof". The kernel universally (I hope) has 
> parenthesis around the sizeof argument, even though it's clearly not 
> required by the C language. 
>
> It's a coding standard.

Right, but they (at least for me) make it more readable.
kmalloc(sizeof i) just doesn't look good, the operator looks like
a variable name.

But there is this return statement. Some people tend to write
return (x); I simply write return x;
It's clear, and so is a simple do-while.

> And quite frankly, anybody who works on gcc has no place complaining about 
> sparse coding standard warnings. They are a _hell_ of a lot better than 
> some of the really crazy warnings gcc spews out with "-W". At least the 
> sparse warnings you can make go away while making the code more 
> understandable. Some of the -W warnings are unfixable without breaking the 
> source code.

:-)

BTW I think I may use sparse differently.
I can see false gcc warnings every time the project is being built.
OTOH I run sparse only when I have some (almost) completed project
(a patch, a driver etc). I make sure the remaining sparse warnings are
(from my POV) invalid and it won't spew them on next build again.
-- 
Krzysztof Halasa

  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-23 23:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-22 19:14 [PATCH 00/27] drivers/net: fix sparse warnings Hannes Eder
2008-12-22 19:14 ` [PATCH 01/27] drivers/net: fix sparse warning: use ANSI-style function declaration Hannes Eder
2008-12-26  7:53   ` David Miller
2008-12-22 19:15 ` [PATCH 02/27] drivers/net: fix sparse warnings: make do-while a compound statement Hannes Eder
2008-12-22 22:14   ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-12-22 23:44     ` Håkon Løvdal
2008-12-23 16:31       ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-12-23 17:26         ` Harvey Harrison
2008-12-23 17:36           ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-12-23 18:08             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-23 23:18               ` Krzysztof Halasa [this message]
2008-12-23 23:38                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-24  2:03                   ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-12-24  2:10                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-25 17:02                       ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-12-25  6:17                     ` Junio C Hamano
2008-12-29 14:35                   ` Hannes Eder
2008-12-26  7:55   ` David Miller
2008-12-22 19:15 ` [PATCH 03/27] drivers/net: fix sparse warning: returning void-valued expression Hannes Eder
2008-12-26  0:17   ` David Miller
2008-12-26 14:39     ` Hannes Eder
2008-12-26 19:59     ` Randy Dunlap
2008-12-27 19:11       ` Hannes Eder
2008-12-27 19:20         ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-12-27 21:38           ` [PATCH] Makefile: disable sparse warning "returning void-valued expression" Hannes Eder
2008-12-27 21:57             ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-12-26  7:56   ` [PATCH 03/27] drivers/net: fix sparse warning: returning void-valued expression David Miller
2008-12-22 19:15 ` [PATCH 04/27] drivers/net: fix sparse warnings: make symbols static Hannes Eder
2008-12-26  7:57   ` David Miller
2008-12-22 19:15 ` [PATCH 05/27] drivers/net/arcnet: " Hannes Eder
2008-12-26  7:57   ` David Miller
2008-12-22 19:15 ` [PATCH 06/27] drivers/net/atlx: " Hannes Eder
2008-12-26  7:58   ` David Miller
2008-12-22 19:15 ` [PATCH 07/27] drivers/net/bonding: fix sparse warnings: move decls to header file Hannes Eder
2008-12-26  7:59   ` David Miller
2008-12-22 19:16 ` [PATCH 08/27] drivers/net/cxgb3: comment out dead code Hannes Eder
2008-12-26  7:59   ` David Miller
2008-12-22 19:16 ` [PATCH 09/27] drivers/net/e1000e: fix sparse warnings: make symbols static Hannes Eder
2008-12-22 19:16 ` [PATCH 10/27] drivers/net/enic: fix sparse warning: make symbol static Hannes Eder
2008-12-26  8:01   ` David Miller
2008-12-22 19:16 ` [PATCH 11/27] drivers/net/igb: remove dead code (function 'igb_read_pci_cfg') Hannes Eder
2008-12-22 22:30   ` Jeff Kirsher
2008-12-26  8:03     ` David Miller
2008-12-22 19:16 ` [PATCH 12/27] drivers/net/irda: fix sparse warnings: make symbols static Hannes Eder
2008-12-26  8:03   ` David Miller
2008-12-22 19:16 ` [PATCH 13/27] drivers/net/ixgbe: " Hannes Eder
2008-12-26  8:04   ` David Miller
2008-12-22 19:16 ` [PATCH 14/27] drivers/net/netxen: fix sparse warnings: use NULL pointer instead of plain integer Hannes Eder
2008-12-26  8:04   ` David Miller
2008-12-22 19:17 ` [PATCH 15/27] drivers/net/qlge: fix sparse warnings: make symbols static Hannes Eder
2008-12-26  8:05   ` David Miller
2008-12-22 19:17 ` [PATCH 16/27] drivers/net/skfp: " Hannes Eder
2008-12-26  8:06   ` David Miller
2008-12-22 19:17 ` [PATCH 17/27] drivers/net/tokenring: " Hannes Eder
2008-12-26  8:07   ` David Miller
2008-12-22 19:17 ` [PATCH 18/27] drivers/net/tulip: fix sparse warnings: make do-while a compound statement Hannes Eder
2008-12-26  8:07   ` David Miller
2008-12-22 19:17 ` [PATCH 19/27] drivers/net/usb: fix sparse warnings: make symbols static Hannes Eder
2008-12-26  8:08   ` David Miller
2008-12-22 19:17 ` [PATCH 20/27] drivers/net/wan: fix sparse warnings: make do-while a compound statement Hannes Eder
2008-12-22 22:09   ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-12-22 19:18 ` [PATCH 21/27] drivers/net/wan: fix sparse warning: make symbol static Hannes Eder
2008-12-26  8:11   ` David Miller
2008-12-22 19:18 ` [PATCH 22/27] drivers/net/wan/z85230.c: fix sparse warnings: un-EXPORT symbols Hannes Eder
2008-12-26  8:12   ` David Miller
2008-12-22 19:18 ` [PATCH 23/27] drivers/net/wireless: fix sparse warnings: make symbols static Hannes Eder
2008-12-26  8:13   ` David Miller
2008-12-22 19:18 ` [PATCH 24/27] drivers/net/wireless/ath9k: " Hannes Eder
2008-12-22 19:18 ` [PATCH 25/27] drivers/net/wireless/b43: " Hannes Eder
2008-12-26  8:13   ` David Miller
2008-12-22 19:18 ` [PATCH 26/27] drivers/net/wireless/ipw2x00: " Hannes Eder
2008-12-26  8:14   ` David Miller
2008-12-22 19:19 ` [PATCH 27/27] drivers/net/wireless/prism54: " Hannes Eder
2008-12-26  8:15   ` David Miller

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