From: Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>
To: netdev@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: wireless: recap of current issues (configuration)
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 01:05:59 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3oe2fd66w.fsf@defiant.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060113221935.GJ16166@tuxdriver.com> (John W. Linville's message of "Fri, 13 Jan 2006 17:19:36 -0500")
"John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com> writes:
> Virtual devices will have a mode (e.g. station, AP, WDS, ad-hoc, rfmon,
> raw?, other modes?) which defines its "on the air" behaviour. Should
> this mode be fixed when the wlan device is created?
I think so. If needed one can delete and create.
> Or something
> that can be changed when the net_device is down?
IMHO: unnecessary complicates things.
> It may be necessary to remove, suspend, and/or disable wlan devices
> in order to add, resume, and/or enable other types of wlan devices
> on the same WiPHY device (especialy true for rfmon). A mechanism is
> needed for drivers to be able to influence or disallow combinations
> of wlan devices in accordance with capabilities of the hardware.
If the control messages go through the main (WiPHY) driver it can
decide and/or forward the request further, to the library.
Not sure about netlink. OTOH I'm at all not sure netlink should be
used for configuration. sysfs, ioctl seem a better options. Netlink
is better for state monitoring etc. I don't know it very well though.
> Do "global" config requests go to any associated wlan device?
Are they any global config settings?
sysctl or sysfs maybe?
> Or must they be directed to the WiPHY device? Does it matter?
If you mean "settings for a particular physical card" then WiPHY.
> I think we should require "global" configuration to target the WiPHY
> device, while "local" configuration remains with the wlan device.
If "local" means "concerning the wlan device" then sure, yes.
> (I'm not sure how important this point is?) Either way, the WiPHY
> device will need some way to be able to reject configuration requests
> that are incompatible among its associated wlan devices. Since the
> wlan interface implementations should not be device specific, perhaps
> the 802.11 stack can be smart enough to filter-out most conflicting
> config requests before they get to the WiPHY device?
I don't think so. The hardware driver should get the request first,
the rest should look like a library.
I've played with both approaches for years and I would avoid
"802.11 using the hw driver" scenario if at all possible.
--
Krzysztof Halasa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-01-14 0:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20060113195723.GB16166@tuxdriver.com>
2006-01-13 21:26 ` wireless: recap of current issues (intro) John W. Linville
[not found] ` <20060113213011.GE16166@tuxdriver.com>
2006-01-13 22:19 ` wireless: recap of current issues (configuration) John W. Linville
2006-01-13 22:32 ` Johannes Berg
2006-01-14 1:17 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-14 9:28 ` Johannes Berg
2006-01-14 13:47 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-01-14 22:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-01-15 15:20 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-15 19:05 ` Samuel Ortiz
2006-01-16 17:09 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-16 18:51 ` Samuel Ortiz
2006-01-16 19:06 ` John W. Linville
2006-01-16 20:16 ` Samuel Ortiz
2006-01-16 21:06 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-16 22:24 ` Alan Cox
2006-01-16 23:02 ` John W. Linville
2006-01-17 18:41 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-17 18:54 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-01-15 19:53 ` Sam Leffler
2006-01-16 17:28 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-16 17:54 ` Sam Leffler
2006-01-16 19:40 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-16 20:14 ` Sam Leffler
2006-01-16 20:58 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-16 18:39 ` Dan Williams
2006-01-16 19:07 ` Samuel Ortiz
2006-01-16 19:50 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-16 20:10 ` Samuel Ortiz
2006-01-15 12:40 ` Stefan Rompf
2006-01-15 15:51 ` Johannes Berg
2006-01-15 17:53 ` Stefan Rompf
2006-01-15 20:08 ` Sam Leffler
2006-01-15 20:11 ` Johannes Berg
2006-01-17 22:20 ` Stefan Rompf
2006-01-15 19:39 ` Sam Leffler
2006-01-16 0:06 ` Mike Kershaw
2006-01-16 14:23 ` Jiri Benc
2006-01-16 14:55 ` Johannes Berg
2006-01-16 17:33 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-16 18:00 ` Sam Leffler
2006-01-16 20:16 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-14 0:05 ` Krzysztof Halasa [this message]
2006-01-14 23:41 ` Dan Williams
2006-01-15 16:18 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-15 9:35 ` feyd
[not found] ` <20060113213126.GF16166@tuxdriver.com>
2006-01-13 22:20 ` wireless: recap of current issues (compatibility) John W. Linville
2006-01-13 22:33 ` Johannes Berg
2006-01-14 13:44 ` Krzysztof Halasa
[not found] ` <20060113213200.GG16166@tuxdriver.com>
2006-01-13 22:22 ` wireless: recap of current issues (stack) John W. Linville
2006-01-13 22:34 ` Johannes Berg
2006-01-13 23:03 ` Chase Venters
2006-01-14 10:46 ` Simon Kelley
2006-01-14 23:29 ` Dan Williams
2006-01-14 13:51 ` Michael Buesch
2006-01-17 17:38 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-01-14 14:13 ` Ulrich Kunitz
2006-01-15 4:42 ` Pete Zaitcev
2006-01-15 10:04 ` Ulrich Kunitz
[not found] ` <20060113213237.GH16166@tuxdriver.com>
2006-01-13 22:24 ` wireless: recap of current issues (other issues) John W. Linville
2006-01-13 22:35 ` Johannes Berg
2006-01-13 23:02 ` Johannes Berg
2006-01-14 22:09 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-01-15 0:54 ` John W. Linville
2006-01-15 1:51 ` David S. Miller
2006-01-15 11:23 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2006-01-15 15:39 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-17 23:36 ` wireless: recap of current issues (other issues / fake ethernet) Stefan Rompf
2006-01-18 16:32 ` Stuffed Crust
[not found] ` <20060113213311.GI16166@tuxdriver.com>
2006-01-13 22:25 ` wireless: recap of current issues (actions) John W. Linville
2006-01-13 22:36 ` Johannes Berg
2006-01-14 22:11 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-01-15 0:56 ` John W. Linville
2006-01-16 14:44 ` Johannes Berg
[not found] ` <43C80F9A.8020203@candelatech.com>
2006-01-13 22:49 ` wireless: recap of current issues Ben Greear
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