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From: yumkam@gmail.com (Yuriy M. Kaminskiy)
To: netdev@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, containers@lists.osdl.org
Subject: Re: userns, netns, and quick physical memory consumption by unprivileged user
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 18:12:53 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3vb4pgkju.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20160314091417.GA11400@dhcp22.suse.cz

On 03/14/16 12:14 , Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Fri 11-03-16 18:06:59, Yuriy M. Kaminskiy wrote:
> [...]
>> And also tried with memcg:
>>   t=/sys/fs/cgroup/memory/test1;mkdir $t;echo 0 >$t/tasks;
>>   echo 48M >$t/memory.limit_in_bytes; su testuser [...]
>> and it has not helped at all (rather opposite, it ended up with killed
>> init and kernel panic; well, later is pure (un)luck; but point is, memcg
>> apparently *CANNOT* curb net/ns allocations).
>
> It seems you were using memcg v1 here. This didn't have the kernel
> memory accounting enabled by default. With the v2 you get both user and

Hrr. Indeed. And used (distro) kernel compiled without MEMCG_KMEM, so
this test was useless. (However, as distro kernel lacks MEMCG_KMEM, it
means most users won't be able to use it as well[*], so unpriv userns are
unsafe to use for all of them and should be disabled).

That said, not sure if it would have helped in kernels <= 4.4 (would
those allocation be called in context that allows them to be
accounted by [correct] memcg?), but it looks like with upcoming change to
whitelisting (explicit GPF_ACCOUNT), it won't (as almost nothing in
net/* uses it).

> kernel (well some subset of it) accounting enabled. Whether we account
> also netns related data structures sufficiently is a question. I haven't

Except for conntrack tables, it is not exactly tied to netnes, it's
regular CAP_NET_ADMIN things (routing, addresses, links, iptables, etc
that can be added via netlink messages). Just userns+netns gives right
to tweak with them to regular user.

> checked.  But it would be worth trying and fix.

      reply	other threads:[~2016-03-14 15:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-02 20:38 [q] userns, netns, and quick physical memory consumption by unprivileged user Yuriy M. Kaminskiy
2016-03-11 15:06 ` Yuriy M. Kaminskiy
2016-03-11 15:34   ` Florian Westphal
2016-03-12 11:41     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2016-03-12 13:35     ` Yuriy M. Kaminskiy
2016-03-14  9:14   ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-14 15:12     ` Yuriy M. Kaminskiy [this message]

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