From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: "Vladimir B. Savkin" <master@sectorb.msk.ru>
Cc: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@diku.dk>,
Harry Edmon <harry@atmos.washington.edu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Network performance degradation from 2.6.11.12 to 2.6.16.20
Date: 18 Sep 2006 13:27:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <p73ac4x4doi.fsf@verdi.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060918102918.GA23261@tentacle.sectorb.msk.ru>
"Vladimir B. Savkin" <master@sectorb.msk.ru> writes:
[you seem to send your emails in a strange way that doesn't keep me in cc.
Please stop doing that.]
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 11:58:21AM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > > The x86-64 timer subsystems currently doesn't have clocksources
> > > > at all, but it supports TSC and some other timers.
> > >
> >
> > > until I hacked arch/i386/kernel/tsc.c
> >
> > Then you don't use x86-64.
> >
> Oh. I mean I made arch/i386/kernel/tsc.c compile on x86-64
> by hacking some Makefiles and headers.
The codebase for timing (and lots of other things) is quite different
between 32bit and 64bit. You're really surprised it doesn't work if you do such things?
> But the question is, why stock 2.6.18-rc7 could not use TSC on its own?
x86-64 doesn't use the TSC when it deems it to not be reliable, which
is the case on your system.
> > > > > I've also had experience of unsychronized TSC on dual-core Athlon,
> > > > > but it was cured by idle=poll.
> > > >
> > > > You can use that, but it will make your system run quite hot
> > > > and cost you a lot of powe^wmoney.
> > >
> > > Here in Russia electric power is cheap compared with hardware upgrade.
> >
> > It's not just electrical power - the hardware is more stressed and will
> > likely fail earlier too. As a rule of thumb the hotter your hardware runs
> > the earlier it will fail.
>
> What hardware exactly. Doesn't it affect only CPU? And they are not
> know to fail before any other components.
All hardware. It's basic physics.
-Andi
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Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2006-06-17 22:35 ` Network performance degradation from 2.6.11.12 to 2.6.16.20 Andrew Morton
2006-06-17 23:23 ` Harry Edmon
2006-06-17 23:56 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-18 3:16 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-06-18 23:23 ` Harry Edmon
2006-06-19 13:54 ` Harry Edmon
2006-06-20 2:11 ` Herbert Xu
2006-06-19 14:47 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2006-06-19 15:24 ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-19 17:34 ` Chris Friesen
2006-06-19 20:39 ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-19 18:24 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2006-06-25 21:51 ` Harry Edmon
2006-06-26 4:20 ` Bill Fink
2006-06-25 22:22 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-06-26 5:23 ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-04 11:41 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2006-07-04 11:54 ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-10 10:55 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2006-09-16 12:08 ` Vladimir B. Savkin
2006-09-18 8:35 ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-18 9:03 ` Vladimir B. Savkin
2006-09-18 9:58 ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-18 10:29 ` Vladimir B. Savkin
2006-09-18 11:27 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2006-09-18 15:38 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-18 15:54 ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-18 16:28 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-18 16:50 ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-18 21:03 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-18 21:22 ` David Miller
2006-09-18 21:46 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-19 5:55 ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-19 20:31 ` Thomas Graf
2006-09-19 20:43 ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-19 5:52 ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-18 21:18 ` Vladimir B. Savkin
2006-09-18 22:00 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-18 21:57 ` David Lang
2006-09-19 19:40 ` David Miller
2006-09-19 19:44 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-18 22:03 ` Vladimir B. Savkin
2006-09-19 19:41 ` David Miller
2006-09-19 19:47 ` David Miller
2006-09-22 15:35 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-22 15:43 ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-22 16:51 ` Rick Jones
2007-03-06 13:25 ` Packet timestamps (was: Re: Network performance degradation from 2.6.11.12 to 2.6.16.20) Vladimir B. Savkin
2007-03-06 14:38 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-06 14:43 ` Vladimir B. Savkin
2007-03-06 15:16 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-06 18:15 ` Vladimir B. Savkin
2006-09-18 21:08 ` Network performance degradation from 2.6.11.12 to 2.6.16.20 Vladimir B. Savkin
2006-09-18 14:09 ` David Miller
2006-09-18 14:29 ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-18 15:19 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-18 15:19 ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-19 16:40 ` Harry Edmon
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