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From: Vlad Buslov <vladbu@mellanox.com>
To: Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>
Cc: Vlad Buslov <vladbu@mellanox.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com" <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	"jiri@resnulli.us" <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"mleitner@redhat.com" <mleitner@redhat.com>,
	"dcaratti@redhat.com" <dcaratti@redhat.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 00/13] Control action percpu counters allocation by netlink flag
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 13:04:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <vbf7e4vy5nq.fsf@mellanox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <78ec25e4-dea9-4f70-4196-b93fbc87208d@mojatatu.com>


On Wed 23 Oct 2019 at 15:49, Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com> wrote:
> Hi Vlad,
>
> On 2019-10-22 10:17 a.m., Vlad Buslov wrote:
>> Currently, significant fraction of CPU time during TC filter allocation
>> is spent in percpu allocator. Moreover, percpu allocator is protected
>> with single global mutex which negates any potential to improve its
>> performance by means of recent developments in TC filter update API that
>> removed rtnl lock for some Qdiscs and classifiers. In order to
>> significantly improve filter update rate and reduce memory usage we
>> would like to allow users to skip percpu counters allocation for
>> specific action if they don't expect high traffic rate hitting the
>> action, which is a reasonable expectation for hardware-offloaded setup.
>> In that case any potential gains to software fast-path performance
>> gained by usage of percpu-allocated counters compared to regular integer
>> counters protected by spinlock are not important, but amount of
>> additional CPU and memory consumed by them is significant.
>
> Great to see this becoming low hanging on the fruit tree
> after your improvements.
> Note: had a discussion a few years back with Eric D.(on Cc)
> when i was trying to improve action dumping; what you are seeing
> was very visible when doing a large batch creation of actions.
> At the time i was thinking of amortizing the cost of that mutex
> in a batch action create i.e you ask the per cpu allocator
> to alloc a batch of the stats instead of singular.
>
> I understand your use case being different since it is for h/w
> offload. If you have time can you test with batching many actions
> and seeing the before/after improvement?

Will do.

>
> Note: even for h/w offload it makes sense to first create the actions
> then bind to filters (in my world thats what we end up doing).
> If we can improve the first phase it is a win for both s/w and hw use
> cases.
>
> Question:
> Given TCA_ACT_FLAGS_FAST_INIT is common to all actions would it make
> sense to use Could you have used a TLV in the namespace of TCA_ACT_MAX
> (outer TLV)? You will have to pass a param to ->init().

It is not common for all actions. I omitted modifying actions that are
not offloaded and some actions don't user percpu allocator at all
(pedit, for example) and have no use for this flag at the moment.

>
> cheers,
> jamal

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-23 13:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-22 14:17 [PATCH net-next 00/13] Control action percpu counters allocation by netlink flag Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:17 ` [PATCH net-next 01/13] net: sched: extract common action counters update code into function Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:17 ` [PATCH net-next 02/13] net: sched: extract bstats " Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:17 ` [PATCH net-next 03/13] net: sched: extract qstats update code into functions Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:17 ` [PATCH net-next 04/13] net: sched: don't expose action qstats to skb_tc_reinsert() Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:17 ` [PATCH net-next 05/13] net: sched: modify stats helper functions to support regular stats Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:17 ` [PATCH net-next 06/13] net: sched: add action fast initialization flag Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:17 ` [PATCH net-next 07/13] net: sched: act_gact: support fast init flag to skip pcpu allocation Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:17 ` [PATCH net-next 08/13] net: sched: act_csum: " Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:18 ` [PATCH net-next 09/13] net: sched: act_mirred: support fast init flag to skip pcpu alloc Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:18 ` [PATCH net-next 10/13] net: sched: tunnel_key: " Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:18 ` [PATCH net-next 11/13] net: sched: act_vlan: support fast init flag to skip pcpu allocation Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:18 ` [PATCH net-next 12/13] net: sched: act_ct: " Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:18 ` [PATCH net-next 13/13] tc-testing: implement tests for new fast_init action flag Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:28 ` [PATCH iproute2-next] tc: implement support for action flags Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:35 ` [PATCH net-next 00/13] Control action percpu counters allocation by netlink flag Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2019-10-22 14:52   ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 18:17     ` Roman Mashak
2019-10-23  6:38       ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-23 13:02         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-23 13:08           ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 15:15 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2019-10-22 15:52   ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 17:09     ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2019-10-23  6:42       ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-24 15:12       ` Roopa Prabhu
2019-10-24 15:18         ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-24 17:31           ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2019-10-24 18:03             ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-23 12:49 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-23 13:04   ` Vlad Buslov [this message]
2019-10-23 14:21     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-23 15:04       ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-24  7:35       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-10-24 15:23         ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-24 16:12           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-24 16:44             ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-24 17:17               ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-24 18:05                 ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-25 11:46                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-25 11:55                     ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-25 14:26             ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-25 14:57               ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-25 15:08                 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-25 15:18                   ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-25 15:43                     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-25 16:06                       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-25 16:10                         ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-25 16:29                           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-25 16:53                             ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-25 18:17                               ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-25 21:05                                 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-25 21:10                                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-25 21:52                                     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-26  9:44                                       ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-26 12:26                                         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-26 14:52                                           ` Roman Mashak
2019-10-26 16:06                                             ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-26 16:42                                               ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-26 18:38                                                 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-27  8:31                                                   ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-27  9:13                                                     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-25 16:27                         ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-25 16:08                       ` Vlad Buslov

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