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From: Vlad Buslov <vladbu@mellanox.com>
To: Marcelo Ricardo Leitner <mleitner@redhat.com>
Cc: Vlad Buslov <vladbu@mellanox.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"jhs@mojatatu.com" <jhs@mojatatu.com>,
	"xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com" <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	"jiri@resnulli.us" <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"dcaratti@redhat.com" <dcaratti@redhat.com>,
	"pabeni@redhat.com" <pabeni@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 00/13] Control action percpu counters allocation by netlink flag
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 14:52:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <vbfmudsx26l.fsf@mellanox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191022143539.GY4321@localhost.localdomain>


On Tue 22 Oct 2019 at 17:35, Marcelo Ricardo Leitner <mleitner@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 05:17:51PM +0300, Vlad Buslov wrote:
>> Currently, significant fraction of CPU time during TC filter allocation
>> is spent in percpu allocator. Moreover, percpu allocator is protected
>> with single global mutex which negates any potential to improve its
>> performance by means of recent developments in TC filter update API that
>> removed rtnl lock for some Qdiscs and classifiers. In order to
>> significantly improve filter update rate and reduce memory usage we
>> would like to allow users to skip percpu counters allocation for
>> specific action if they don't expect high traffic rate hitting the
>> action, which is a reasonable expectation for hardware-offloaded setup.
>> In that case any potential gains to software fast-path performance
>> gained by usage of percpu-allocated counters compared to regular integer
>> counters protected by spinlock are not important, but amount of
>> additional CPU and memory consumed by them is significant.
>
> Yes!
>
> I wonder how this can play together with conntrack offloading.  With
> it the sw datapath will be more used, as a conntrack entry can only be
> offloaded after the handshake.  That said, the host can have to
> process quite some handshakes in sw datapath.  Seems OvS can then just
> not set this flag in act_ct (and others for this rule), and such cases
> will be able to leverage the percpu stats.  Right?

The flag is set per each actions instance so client can chose not to use
the flag in case-by-case basis. Conntrack use case requires further
investigation since I'm not entirely convinced that handling first few
packets in sw (before connection reaches established state and is
offloaded) warrants having percpu counter.

>
>> allocator, but not for action idr lock, which is per-action. Note that
>> percpu allocator is still used by dst_cache in tunnel_key actions and
>> consumes 4.68% CPU time. Dst_cache seems like good opportunity for
>> further insertion rate optimization but is not addressed by this change.
>
> I vented this idea re dst_cache last week with Paolo. He sent me a
> draft patch but I didn't test it yet.

Looking forward to it!

>
> Thanks,
> Marcelo

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-22 14:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-22 14:17 [PATCH net-next 00/13] Control action percpu counters allocation by netlink flag Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:17 ` [PATCH net-next 01/13] net: sched: extract common action counters update code into function Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:17 ` [PATCH net-next 02/13] net: sched: extract bstats " Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:17 ` [PATCH net-next 03/13] net: sched: extract qstats update code into functions Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:17 ` [PATCH net-next 04/13] net: sched: don't expose action qstats to skb_tc_reinsert() Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:17 ` [PATCH net-next 05/13] net: sched: modify stats helper functions to support regular stats Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:17 ` [PATCH net-next 06/13] net: sched: add action fast initialization flag Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:17 ` [PATCH net-next 07/13] net: sched: act_gact: support fast init flag to skip pcpu allocation Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:17 ` [PATCH net-next 08/13] net: sched: act_csum: " Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:18 ` [PATCH net-next 09/13] net: sched: act_mirred: support fast init flag to skip pcpu alloc Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:18 ` [PATCH net-next 10/13] net: sched: tunnel_key: " Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:18 ` [PATCH net-next 11/13] net: sched: act_vlan: support fast init flag to skip pcpu allocation Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:18 ` [PATCH net-next 12/13] net: sched: act_ct: " Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:18 ` [PATCH net-next 13/13] tc-testing: implement tests for new fast_init action flag Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:28 ` [PATCH iproute2-next] tc: implement support for action flags Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:35 ` [PATCH net-next 00/13] Control action percpu counters allocation by netlink flag Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2019-10-22 14:52   ` Vlad Buslov [this message]
2019-10-22 18:17     ` Roman Mashak
2019-10-23  6:38       ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-23 13:02         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-23 13:08           ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 15:15 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2019-10-22 15:52   ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 17:09     ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2019-10-23  6:42       ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-24 15:12       ` Roopa Prabhu
2019-10-24 15:18         ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-24 17:31           ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2019-10-24 18:03             ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-23 12:49 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-23 13:04   ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-23 14:21     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-23 15:04       ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-24  7:35       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-10-24 15:23         ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-24 16:12           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-24 16:44             ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-24 17:17               ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-24 18:05                 ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-25 11:46                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-25 11:55                     ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-25 14:26             ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-25 14:57               ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-25 15:08                 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-25 15:18                   ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-25 15:43                     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-25 16:06                       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-25 16:10                         ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-25 16:29                           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-25 16:53                             ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-25 18:17                               ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-25 21:05                                 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-25 21:10                                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-25 21:52                                     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-26  9:44                                       ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-26 12:26                                         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-26 14:52                                           ` Roman Mashak
2019-10-26 16:06                                             ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-26 16:42                                               ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-26 18:38                                                 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-27  8:31                                                   ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-27  9:13                                                     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-25 16:27                         ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-25 16:08                       ` Vlad Buslov

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