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From: Vlad Buslov <vladbu@mellanox.com>
To: Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>
Cc: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>, Vlad Buslov <vladbu@mellanox.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com" <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"mleitner@redhat.com" <mleitner@redhat.com>,
	"dcaratti@redhat.com" <dcaratti@redhat.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 00/13] Control action percpu counters allocation by netlink flag
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2019 15:23:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <vbfwocuupyz.fsf@mellanox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191024073557.GB2233@nanopsycho.orion>

On Thu 24 Oct 2019 at 10:35, Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us> wrote:
> Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 04:21:51PM CEST, jhs@mojatatu.com wrote:
>>On 2019-10-23 9:04 a.m., Vlad Buslov wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Wed 23 Oct 2019 at 15:49, Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com> wrote:
>>> > Hi Vlad,
>>> > 
>>
>>> > I understand your use case being different since it is for h/w
>>> > offload. If you have time can you test with batching many actions
>>> > and seeing the before/after improvement?
>>> 
>>> Will do.
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>I think you may have published number before, but would be interesting
>>to see the before and after of adding the action first and measuring the
>>filter improvement without caring about the allocator.
>>
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> > Note: even for h/w offload it makes sense to first create the actions
>>> > then bind to filters (in my world thats what we end up doing).
>>> > If we can improve the first phase it is a win for both s/w and hw use
>>> > cases.
>>> > 
>>> > Question:
>>> > Given TCA_ACT_FLAGS_FAST_INIT is common to all actions would it make
>>> > sense to use Could you have used a TLV in the namespace of TCA_ACT_MAX
>>> > (outer TLV)? You will have to pass a param to ->init().
>>> 
>>> It is not common for all actions. I omitted modifying actions that are
>>> not offloaded and some actions don't user percpu allocator at all
>>> (pedit, for example) and have no use for this flag at the moment.
>>
>>pedit just never got updated (its simple to update). There is
>>value in the software to have _all_ the actions use per cpu stats.
>>It improves fast path performance.
>>
>>Jiri complains constantly about all these new per-action TLVs
>>which are generic. He promised to "fix it all" someday. Jiri i notice
>>your ack here, what happened? ;->
>
> Correct, it would be great. However not sure how exactly to do that now.
> Do you have some ideas.
>
> But basically this patchset does what was done many many times in the
> past. I think it was a mistake in the original design not to have some
> "common attrs" :/ Lesson learned for next interfaces.

Jamal, can we reach some conclusion? Do you still suggest to refactor
the patches to use TCA_ROOT_FLAGS and parse it in act API instead of
individual actions?

Thanks,
Vlad

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-24 15:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-22 14:17 [PATCH net-next 00/13] Control action percpu counters allocation by netlink flag Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:17 ` [PATCH net-next 01/13] net: sched: extract common action counters update code into function Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:17 ` [PATCH net-next 02/13] net: sched: extract bstats " Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:17 ` [PATCH net-next 03/13] net: sched: extract qstats update code into functions Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:17 ` [PATCH net-next 04/13] net: sched: don't expose action qstats to skb_tc_reinsert() Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:17 ` [PATCH net-next 05/13] net: sched: modify stats helper functions to support regular stats Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:17 ` [PATCH net-next 06/13] net: sched: add action fast initialization flag Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:17 ` [PATCH net-next 07/13] net: sched: act_gact: support fast init flag to skip pcpu allocation Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:17 ` [PATCH net-next 08/13] net: sched: act_csum: " Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:18 ` [PATCH net-next 09/13] net: sched: act_mirred: support fast init flag to skip pcpu alloc Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:18 ` [PATCH net-next 10/13] net: sched: tunnel_key: " Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:18 ` [PATCH net-next 11/13] net: sched: act_vlan: support fast init flag to skip pcpu allocation Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:18 ` [PATCH net-next 12/13] net: sched: act_ct: " Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:18 ` [PATCH net-next 13/13] tc-testing: implement tests for new fast_init action flag Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:28 ` [PATCH iproute2-next] tc: implement support for action flags Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 14:35 ` [PATCH net-next 00/13] Control action percpu counters allocation by netlink flag Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2019-10-22 14:52   ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 18:17     ` Roman Mashak
2019-10-23  6:38       ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-23 13:02         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-23 13:08           ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 15:15 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2019-10-22 15:52   ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-22 17:09     ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2019-10-23  6:42       ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-24 15:12       ` Roopa Prabhu
2019-10-24 15:18         ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-24 17:31           ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2019-10-24 18:03             ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-23 12:49 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-23 13:04   ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-23 14:21     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-23 15:04       ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-24  7:35       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-10-24 15:23         ` Vlad Buslov [this message]
2019-10-24 16:12           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-24 16:44             ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-24 17:17               ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-24 18:05                 ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-25 11:46                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-25 11:55                     ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-25 14:26             ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-25 14:57               ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-25 15:08                 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-25 15:18                   ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-25 15:43                     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-25 16:06                       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-25 16:10                         ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-25 16:29                           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-25 16:53                             ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-25 18:17                               ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-25 21:05                                 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-25 21:10                                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-25 21:52                                     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-26  9:44                                       ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-26 12:26                                         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-26 14:52                                           ` Roman Mashak
2019-10-26 16:06                                             ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-26 16:42                                               ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-26 18:38                                                 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-27  8:31                                                   ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-27  9:13                                                     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-25 16:27                         ` Vlad Buslov
2019-10-25 16:08                       ` Vlad Buslov

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