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From: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	 Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org,  Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	 "David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	 Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	 Felix Maurer <fmaurer@redhat.com>,
	 Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	 Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	 Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
	 Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC net-next 1/2] hsr: Allow to send a specific port and with HSR header
Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2026 18:48:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <willemdebruijn.kernel.1f5b6b3e8c22d@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260304161255.VV_7vPBw@linutronix.de>

Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2026-03-04 10:56:16 [-0500], Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> > > Would it be okay if I occupy three bits in sk_buff which look unused?
> > 
> > Have you looked into using skb_extensions?
> 
> Yes. I would have allocate memory via __skb_ext_alloc() and attach it to
> the skb via __skb_ext_set(). That would on receive and while sending
> (via af_packet).
> Looking at the current allocations as of skb_ext_type_len, they all need
> a bit of memory, the smallest is mctp_flow with just a pointer the other
> are a fair amount larger. For the three bits, I was hoping to avoid it.

But this is not a performance sensitive path, right? Nor is it very
complicated to add?

I understand your preference. It's just that if every protocol and
feature, let alone their cross-product, adds a few bits to struct
sk_buff, it grows to become unmangeable. A classic tragedy of the
commons. For this reason pushback is common.

Devil's advocate, an alternative would be to add a few bits, then
maybe union them so that other users can use the same bits as long
as their code does not overlaps. This quickly becomes hard to analyze
for correctness. In a sense skb extensions resolved some of this.

That said, happy to hear other opinions or implementation concerns
that I may have underappreciated, e.g., it may not address the HSR
specific needs for AF_PACKET.



  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-04 23:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-04 11:24 [PATCH RFC net-next 0/2] hsr: Add additional info to send/ receive skbs Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-02-04 11:24 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 1/2] hsr: Allow to send a specific port and with HSR header Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-02-04 17:30   ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-02-17 15:36     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-04 14:58     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-04 15:56       ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-03-04 16:12         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-04 23:48           ` Willem de Bruijn [this message]
2026-03-05  8:07             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-05 14:41               ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-05 15:05                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-02-04 11:24 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 2/2] af_packet: Add port specific handling for HSR Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-02-04 17:36   ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-02-17 15:51     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-02-16 16:10 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 0/2] hsr: Add additional info to send/ receive skbs Felix Maurer
2026-02-16 16:19   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-02-16 16:25   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-02-17 16:14     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-02-17 16:10   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-02-18 19:28     ` Felix Maurer
2026-02-18 21:53       ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-02-24 11:48         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-02-24 11:24       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior

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