From: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
To: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>,
Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>,
Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>,
Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>,
lazyming <minhnguyen.080505@gmail.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, kuba@kernel.org,
pabeni@redhat.com, horms@kernel.org, w@1wt.eu,
security@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
lazyming <minhnguyen.080505@gmail.com>,
stable@vger.kernel.org, asml.silence@gmail.com,
achender@kernel.org, mst@redhat.com, jasowang@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] net: skbuff: fix missing zerocopy reference in pskb_carve helpers
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 13:31:53 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <willemdebruijn.kernel.2a4ec672bf2d7@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <willemdebruijn.kernel.9bf2a08cffd8@gmail.com>
Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > > Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > > > lazyming wrote:
> > > > > pskb_carve_inside_header() and pskb_carve_inside_nonlinear() both copy
> > > > > the old skb_shared_info header into a new buffer via memcpy(), which
> > > > > includes the destructor_arg pointer (uarg) for MSG_ZEROCOPY skbs.
> > > >
> > > > These functions are not supposed to maintain zerocopy frags.
> > > >
> > > > Both call skb_orphan_frags.
> > > >
> > > > I think what may need to happen is to invert the order of that call
> > > > and the memcpy. Current code:
> > > >
> > > > memcpy((struct skb_shared_info *)(data + size),
> > > > skb_shinfo(skb), offsetof(struct skb_shared_info, frags[0]));
> > > > if (skb_orphan_frags(skb, gfp_mask)) {
> > > > skb_kfree_head(data);
> > > > return -ENOMEM;
> > > > }
> > >
> > > Never mind. This actually corresponds to the first Sashiko report you
> > > mentioned: if zerocopy skbs are converted, then the memcpy prior to
> > > that call will have stale state.
> > >
> > > For skbs where skb_orphan_frags does not do a deep copy, we do need to
> > > take this extra reference.
> > >
> > > Reviewed-by: Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>
> >
> > Not sure the potential preexisting issue is reachable.
> >
> > Vhost-net and other zerocopy that predates MSG_ZEROCOPY does not
> > refcount ubuf_info. Instead it calls skb_copy_ubufs on skb_clone.
> >
> > So if such an skb reaches pskb_expand_head, it should be guaranteed to
> > not be a clone. Same for the carve methods added later.
> >
> > But, the commit that added zerocopy, commit a6686f2f382b
> > ("skbuff: skb supports zero-copy buffers"), included this
> > pksb_expand_head call to skb_copy_ubufs from the start. That implies
> > that was expected to be reachable. I just don't see how yet.
> >
> > If it is reachable, then all that is needed is to clear shinfo->flags.
> > Or more neatly,
> >
> > skb_shinfo(skb)->flags &= ~SKBFL_ALL_ZEROCOPY;
>
> Also, I'm not the expert on more recent managed frags
> (SKBFL_MANAGED_FRAG_REFS).
>
> That calls skb_zcopy_downgrade_managed in pskb_expand_head, but not in
> the two other functions with memcpy before skb_copy_ubufs:
> pskb_carve_inside_header and pskb_carve_inside_nonlinear.
>
> I assume because those shorten the skb, so no risk of getting mixed
> mode refcounted and non-refcounted frags?
>
> In general zerocopy can be split in refcounted and non-refcounted.
>
> Refcounted zerocopy will not downgrade in these cases, so will not
> modify shinfo->flags after memcpy.
>
> Non-refcounted should always get converted to copy in skb_clone,
> so will not enter the skb_cloned() branch here.
>
> If in doubt maybe warrants a rare WARN_ON_ONCE patch.
I was unable to find a path also with the help of Gemini.
It did spot an interesting case where a cloned unrefcounted zerocopy
skb can be created. But it is reduced to uncloned immediately.
skb_morph is like skb_clone (calls __skb_clone), but skips the
skb_orphan_frags check. Its only caller ensures that this is safe.
But I'm inclined to send a patch to net-next that makes skb_morph
itself safe, by orphaning as well (and updating the caller to
gracefully handle skb_morph failure).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-25 17:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-21 12:16 [PATCH net] net: skbuff: fix missing zerocopy reference in pskb_carve helpers lazyming
2026-05-23 8:58 ` lazyming
2026-05-24 13:37 ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-05-24 14:06 ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-05-25 15:18 ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-05-25 15:31 ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-05-25 17:31 ` Willem de Bruijn [this message]
2026-05-25 19:54 ` Jakub Kicinski
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=willemdebruijn.kernel.2a4ec672bf2d7@gmail.com \
--to=willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com \
--cc=achender@kernel.org \
--cc=asml.silence@gmail.com \
--cc=davem@davemloft.net \
--cc=edumazet@google.com \
--cc=horms@kernel.org \
--cc=jasowang@redhat.com \
--cc=kuba@kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=minhnguyen.080505@gmail.com \
--cc=mst@redhat.com \
--cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=pabeni@redhat.com \
--cc=security@kernel.org \
--cc=stable@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=w@1wt.eu \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox