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From: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	 Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	 Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>,
	 "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	 Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	 Kurt Kanzenbach <kurt@linutronix.de>,
	 Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	 Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	 Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v2] net: Drop the lock in skb_may_tx_timestamp()
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2026 16:49:24 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <willemdebruijn.kernel.85c1623c5d65@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260220132932.1ed45656@kernel.org>

Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Feb 2026 19:38:58 +0100 Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> > skb_may_tx_timestamp() may acquire sock::sk_callback_lock. The lock must
> > not be taken in IRQ context, only softirq is okay. A few drivers receive
> > the timestamp via a dedicated interrupt and complete the TX timestamp
> > from that handler. This will lead to a deadlock if the lock is already
> > write-locked on the same CPU.
> 
> Fine by me, the fix is fairly simple. But FWIW I can't stop myself from
> restating that networking core is not supposed to be called by drivers
> in hard IRQ context in general. Especially when it comes to anything
> that may involve user sockets. So my intuition is that fixing the driver
> to use a tasklet^w work_bh would make the expectations clearer.
> 
> Willem, you don't find that argument convincing?

This narrow case seems fine to me too.

But I can understand if that would be a global rule. As it simplifies
reasoning about correctness of core code quite a bit. In which case
that would trump this. No preference from me. Clearly other drivers
are quite capable of making this work without requiring updates from
hard IRQ.
 
> BTW IIUC the driver in question was igc, and it did not exist for
> another 3 years after the commit under Fixes, which is another bad
> smell here.

I was wondering about that too. But Sebastian shared quite a few more
drivers: https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20260217132838.kgRAQ87W@linutronix.de/
I did not bother to check whether all were newer than the introduction
of the blamed commit.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-20 21:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-20 18:38 [PATCH net v2] net: Drop the lock in skb_may_tx_timestamp() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-02-20 21:20 ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-02-20 21:29 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-20 21:49   ` Willem de Bruijn [this message]
2026-02-20 22:02     ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-23 17:07       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-02-23 23:27         ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-24  9:02           ` Eric Dumazet
2026-02-24 10:26             ` Paolo Abeni
2026-02-21  0:45 ` Jason Xing
2026-02-23  8:42 ` Eric Dumazet
2026-02-24 10:50 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
2026-02-26  8:11   ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2026-02-26  8:50     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior

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