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From: Patrick PIGNOL <patrick.pignol@gmail.com>
To: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
Cc: Steve Grubb <sgrubb@redhat.com>,
	Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@redhat.com>,
	Paul Moore <pmoore@redhat.com>,
	Linux-Audit Mailing List <linux-audit@redhat.com>,
	Netfilter Developer Mailing List
	<netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Graf <tgraf@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: AUDIT_NETFILTER_PKT message format
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 20:12:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0eb840df-20d7-73ab-e7cb-aa0aa111d7b9@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHC9VhQK67Mi-afj90irrv6h2d1XaiLKEYD0wr+j7JD4MmRTPg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I just writen that because I read

"

Determining the pid/subj of a packet is notoriously
difficult/impossible in netfilter so let's drop that; with proper
policy/rules you should be able to match proto/port with a given
process so this shouldn't be that critical.  The source/destination
addresses and proto/port (assuming IP) should be easy enough.

"

OK you explain me you talk about "Linux audit" sub-system. Cool I didn't 
read it like that ! (I'm waiting for netfilter-dev ml).

Don't tell me that windows is better than linux on that point (see 
ZoneAlarm). I know ZoneAlarm is a Firewall. But if Linux could trace it 
from netfilter you should integrate it in your audit sub system.

I think it should be good to have to know witch application ask for 
send/receive packet on witch protocol and on witch port and for witch IP 
target(from/to) at a given level of verbosity(debug) and how many time 
for a given time-unit (minute-hour).

At this level content of packet is not really useful, I think wire-shark 
is better for that.

Sorry for the noise but it still important for me as a user to can trace 
who have access to an from my computer.

Best regards,

Patrick PIGNOL


Le 21/01/2017 à 18:37, Paul Moore a écrit :
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 6:27 AM, Patrick PIGNOL
> <patrick.pignol@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I disagree !
>>
>> Many people in the world would like to allow an software A to go to internet
>> through OUTPUT TCP port 80 but disallow software B to go to the internet
>> through this same OUTPUT TCP port 80. Don't you know about viruses on linux
>> ? Viruses ALWAYS use HTTP/HTTPS ports to get payloads on internet and OUTPUT
>> TCP port 443 COULD NOT be CLOSED for ALL SOFTWARE if you want to access
>> internet services (via internet browsers for example).
> The Linux audit subsystem simply logs system events, it does not
> enforce security policy.  I suggest you investigate the different
> Linux firewall tools and LSMs, e.g. SELinux, as they should help you
> accomplish what you describe.
>


  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-21 19:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-17  5:25 AUDIT_NETFILTER_PKT message format Richard Guy Briggs
2017-01-17 13:55 ` Steve Grubb
2017-01-17 16:12   ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-01-17 16:29     ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-01-17 18:35       ` Steve Grubb
2017-01-17 20:17     ` Paul Moore
2017-01-18  2:34       ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-01-18  5:39         ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-01-18 12:32           ` Paul Moore
2017-01-18 14:52             ` Steve Grubb
2017-01-18 15:15             ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-01-18 23:35               ` Paul Moore
2017-01-20 14:49                 ` Steve Grubb
2017-01-20 20:37                   ` Paul Moore
2017-01-21 11:27                     ` Patrick PIGNOL
2017-01-21 17:37                       ` Paul Moore
2017-01-21 19:12                         ` Patrick PIGNOL [this message]
2017-01-23  4:49                           ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-02-07 20:52                   ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-02-08  3:56                     ` Paul Moore
2017-02-08 16:30                       ` Steve Grubb
2017-02-08 23:09                         ` Paul Moore
2017-02-09 10:56                           ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2017-02-09 16:31                             ` Paul Moore
2017-02-09 23:49                           ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-02-10  0:09                             ` Steve Grubb
2017-02-10  1:12                               ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-02-10 22:39                                 ` Steve Grubb
2017-02-10 22:54                                   ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-02-13 17:57                                     ` Steve Grubb
2017-02-13 20:50                                       ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-02-13 23:50                                         ` Paul Moore
2017-02-14  0:24                                           ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-02-14 21:06                                             ` Paul Moore
2017-02-16 22:41                                               ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-02-16  0:32                                             ` Paul Moore
2017-02-16 22:36                                               ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-02-17  1:57                                                 ` Paul Moore
2017-02-17  2:24                                                   ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-02-17 23:04                                                 ` Paul Moore
2017-02-26 19:09                                             ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-02-14 21:31                                         ` Steve Grubb
2017-02-16 21:24                                           ` Richard Guy Briggs

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