From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: mingo@elte.hu
Cc: shemminger@vyatta.com, kaber@trash.net, rick.jones2@hp.com,
dada1@cosmosbay.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
gandalf@wlug.westbo.se, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFT 2/4] Add mod_timer_noact
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:39:59 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090218.133959.193699273.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090218110144.GA4100@elte.hu>
From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:01:44 +0100
> * David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
>
> | Introduce mod_timer_noact() which for example is to replace
> | the calls to del_timer()/add_timer() in
> | __nf_ct_refresh_acct(). It works like mod_timer() but doesn't
> | activate or modify the timeout of an inactive timer which is
> | the behaviour we want in order to be able to use timers as a
> | means of synchronization in nf_conntrack.
>
> It does not mention the overhead to the regular timer interfaces
> at all, nor does it explain the reasons for this change
> adequately.
You (conveniently) skipped this part of his commit message, so
I guess this is the part you didn't read very carefully:
A later patch will modify __nf_ct_refresh_acct() to use
mod_timer_noact() which will then save one spin_lock_irqsave()
/ spin_lock_irqrestore() pair per conntrack timer update. This
will also get rid of the race we currently have without adding
more locking in nf_conntrack.
The whole point is to avoid two spin_lock_irqsave() sequences, thus
taking the timer locks twice.
So Ingo, when you say in response:
Why don't you use?
if (del_timer())
add_timer();
you really look foolish and, in fact, disrespectful to Stephen.
This was my objection to your email, it proved that you didn't
really read his changelog message. He explained perfectly well
what the final goal was of his changes.
And you have this knee-jerk reaction quite often.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-18 21:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-18 5:19 [RFT 0/4] Netfilter/iptables performance improvements Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-18 5:19 ` [RFT 1/4] iptables: lock free counters Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-18 10:02 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-19 19:47 ` [PATCH] " Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-19 23:46 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-02-19 23:56 ` Rick Jones
2009-02-20 1:03 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-20 1:18 ` Rick Jones
2009-02-20 9:42 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-20 22:57 ` Rick Jones
2009-02-21 0:35 ` Rick Jones
2009-02-20 9:37 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-20 18:10 ` [PATCH] iptables: xt_hashlimit fix Eric Dumazet
2009-02-20 18:33 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-02-28 1:54 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-02-28 6:56 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-02-28 8:22 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-02-24 14:31 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-27 14:02 ` [PATCH] iptables: lock free counters Eric Dumazet
2009-02-27 16:08 ` [PATCH] rcu: increment quiescent state counter in ksoftirqd() Eric Dumazet
2009-02-27 16:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-03-02 10:55 ` [PATCH] iptables: lock free counters Patrick McHardy
2009-03-02 17:47 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-02 21:56 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-02 22:02 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-03-02 22:07 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-02 22:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-03-02 22:27 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-02-18 5:19 ` [RFT 2/4] Add mod_timer_noact Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-18 9:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 9:30 ` David Miller
2009-02-18 11:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 11:39 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-18 12:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 12:33 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 21:39 ` David Miller [this message]
2009-02-18 21:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 22:04 ` David Miller
2009-02-18 22:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-18 22:47 ` David Miller
2009-02-18 22:56 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-18 10:07 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 12:05 ` [patch] timers: add mod_timer_pending() Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 12:33 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 12:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 12:54 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 13:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 17:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-18 18:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 18:58 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-18 19:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 10:29 ` [RFT 2/4] Add mod_timer_noact Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 5:19 ` [RFT 3/4] Use mod_timer_noact to remove nf_conntrack_lock Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-18 9:54 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 11:05 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-18 11:08 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 14:01 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-02-18 14:04 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 14:22 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-02-18 14:27 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 5:19 ` [RFT 4/4] netfilter: Get rid of central rwlock in tcp conntracking Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-18 9:56 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 14:17 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-02-19 22:03 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-03-28 16:55 ` [PATCH] netfilter: finer grained nf_conn locking Eric Dumazet
2009-03-29 0:48 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-03-30 19:57 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-30 20:05 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-06 12:07 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-06 12:32 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-04-06 17:25 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-03-30 18:57 ` Rick Jones
2009-03-30 19:20 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-30 19:38 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2009-03-30 19:54 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-30 20:34 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2009-03-30 20:41 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-30 21:25 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2009-03-30 22:44 ` Rick Jones
2009-02-18 21:55 ` [RFT 4/4] netfilter: Get rid of central rwlock in tcp conntracking David Miller
2009-02-18 23:23 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 23:35 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-18 8:30 ` [RFT 0/4] Netfilter/iptables performance improvements Eric Dumazet
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