From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>,
Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org,
tglx@linutronix.de, Martin Josefsson <gandalf@wlug.westbo.se>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] timers: add mod_timer_pending()
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:50:49 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090218125049.GA28791@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <499C000A.4040205@trash.net>
* Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net> wrote:
> Ingo Molnar wrote:
>> * Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net> wrote:
>>
>>> We need to avoid having a timer that was deleted by one CPU
>>> getting re-added by another, but want to avoid taking the
>>> conntrack lock for every timer update. The timer-internal
>>> locking is enough for this as long as we have a mod_timer
>>> variant that forwards a timer, but doesn't activate it in
>>> case it isn't active already.
>>
>> that makes sense - but the implementation is still somewhat ugly. How
>> about the one below instead? Not tested.
>
> This seems to fulfill our needs. I also like the mod_timer_pending()
> name better than mod_timer_noact().
>
>> One open question is this construct in mod_timer():
>>
>> + /*
>> + * This is a common optimization triggered by the
>> + * networking code - if the timer is re-modified
>> + * to be the same thing then just return:
>> + */
>> + if (timer->expires == expires && timer_pending(timer))
>> + return 1;
>>
>> We've had this for ages, but it seems rather SMP-unsafe.
>> timer_pending(), if used in an unserialized fashion, can be any random
>> value in theory - there's no internal serialization here anywhere.
>>
>> We could end up with incorrectly not re-activating a timer in
>> mod_timer() for example - have such things never been observed in
>> practice?
>
> Yes, it seems racy if done for timers that might get
> activated. For forwarding only without activation it seems OK,
> in that case the timer_pending check doesn't seem necessary at
> all.
ok.
To accelerate matters i've committed the new API patch into a
new standalone topic branch: tip:timers/new-apis.
Unless there are objections or test failures, you (or Stephen or
David) can then git-pull it into the networking tree via the Git
coordinates below - and you'll get this single commit in a
surgical manner - no other timer changes are included.
Doing so has the advantage of:
- You not having to wait a kernel cycle for the API to go
upstream.
- You can also push it upstream without waiting for the timer
tree. (the timer tree and the networking tree will share the
exact same commit)
- It will also all merge cleanly with the timer tree in
linux-next, etc.
I'd suggest to do it in about a week, to make sure any after
effects have trickled down and to make sure the topic has become
append-only. You can ping Thomas and me about testing/review
status then, whenever you want to do the pull.
Ingo
------------->
You can pull the latest timers/new-apis git tree from:
git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tip/linux-2.6-tip.git timers/new-apis
Thanks,
Ingo
------------------>
Ingo Molnar (1):
timers: add mod_timer_pending()
arch/powerpc/platforms/cell/spufs/sched.c | 2 +-
drivers/infiniband/hw/ipath/ipath_driver.c | 6 +-
include/linux/timer.h | 22 +-----
kernel/relay.c | 2 +-
kernel/timer.c | 110 ++++++++++++++++++---------
5 files changed, 80 insertions(+), 62 deletions(-)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-18 12:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-18 5:19 [RFT 0/4] Netfilter/iptables performance improvements Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-18 5:19 ` [RFT 1/4] iptables: lock free counters Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-18 10:02 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-19 19:47 ` [PATCH] " Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-19 23:46 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-02-19 23:56 ` Rick Jones
2009-02-20 1:03 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-20 1:18 ` Rick Jones
2009-02-20 9:42 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-20 22:57 ` Rick Jones
2009-02-21 0:35 ` Rick Jones
2009-02-20 9:37 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-20 18:10 ` [PATCH] iptables: xt_hashlimit fix Eric Dumazet
2009-02-20 18:33 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-02-28 1:54 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-02-28 6:56 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-02-28 8:22 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-02-24 14:31 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-27 14:02 ` [PATCH] iptables: lock free counters Eric Dumazet
2009-02-27 16:08 ` [PATCH] rcu: increment quiescent state counter in ksoftirqd() Eric Dumazet
2009-02-27 16:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-03-02 10:55 ` [PATCH] iptables: lock free counters Patrick McHardy
2009-03-02 17:47 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-02 21:56 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-02 22:02 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-03-02 22:07 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-02 22:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-03-02 22:27 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-02-18 5:19 ` [RFT 2/4] Add mod_timer_noact Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-18 9:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 9:30 ` David Miller
2009-02-18 11:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 11:39 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-18 12:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 12:33 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 21:39 ` David Miller
2009-02-18 21:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 22:04 ` David Miller
2009-02-18 22:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-18 22:47 ` David Miller
2009-02-18 22:56 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-18 10:07 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 12:05 ` [patch] timers: add mod_timer_pending() Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 12:33 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 12:50 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-02-18 12:54 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 13:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 17:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-18 18:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 18:58 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-18 19:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 10:29 ` [RFT 2/4] Add mod_timer_noact Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 5:19 ` [RFT 3/4] Use mod_timer_noact to remove nf_conntrack_lock Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-18 9:54 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 11:05 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-18 11:08 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 14:01 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-02-18 14:04 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 14:22 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-02-18 14:27 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 5:19 ` [RFT 4/4] netfilter: Get rid of central rwlock in tcp conntracking Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-18 9:56 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 14:17 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-02-19 22:03 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-03-28 16:55 ` [PATCH] netfilter: finer grained nf_conn locking Eric Dumazet
2009-03-29 0:48 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-03-30 19:57 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-30 20:05 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-06 12:07 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-06 12:32 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-04-06 17:25 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-03-30 18:57 ` Rick Jones
2009-03-30 19:20 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-30 19:38 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2009-03-30 19:54 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-30 20:34 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2009-03-30 20:41 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-30 21:25 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2009-03-30 22:44 ` Rick Jones
2009-02-18 21:55 ` [RFT 4/4] netfilter: Get rid of central rwlock in tcp conntracking David Miller
2009-02-18 23:23 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 23:35 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-18 8:30 ` [RFT 0/4] Netfilter/iptables performance improvements Eric Dumazet
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