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From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: Ansis Atteka <aatteka@nicira.com>
Cc: netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] conntrackd: make conntrackd namespace aware
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 19:17:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120906171709.GB17317@1984> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA=3Oq=8mzQYeRnZkbk-bHmMPh2q58JM93EvnBOkiMa9oZJnuA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 06:36:29PM -0700, Ansis Atteka wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Ansis Atteka <aatteka@nicira.com> wrote:
> > This patch allows conntrackd to open CT Netlink sockets into a given
> > network namespace. Channel sockets (e.g. UDP) would still be opened into
> > the same namespace where conntrackd was started.
> >
> > The only binary this patch affects is conntrackd. All other binaries (e.g.
> > conntrack, nfct) would still operate in the same namespace where they were
> > started.
> >
> > To make use of this patch:
> > 1. create a network namespace: "ip netns add the_ns"
> > 2. add "NetlinkNamespace /var/run/netns/the_ns" line to the conntrackd.conf
> > file inside General {...} section.
> 
> Wanted to provide more details about this patch and also bump it up
> for attention.
> 
> Basically, what it does is allows conntrackd to open Conntrack Netlink
> sockets into a different namespace than where Channel Sockets were
> opened.

I see.

> This isolation brings benefits to:
> 1. security, because the channel socket (and management interface) will
> reside in a different namespace. They won't be exposed to the traffic
> that traverses the namespace;
> 2. flexibility, because arbitrary IP addresses could be used inside that
> namespace for Connection Tracking purposes. No need to worry that
> there might be overlapping IP addresses with the Management interface;

I don't understand this second benefit, could you develop the idea a
bit more?

> 3. scalability w.r.t. namespaces, because all the namespaces would
> end up using a single management interface and IP address in the root
> namespace. There wouldn't be need to maintain a dedicated
> management interface and IP address inside every namespace.
> 
> Also this patch would prepare soil for my next patches, that would
> ease connection state synchronization for virtualized networks even more:
> 1. allow single conntrackd instance to synchronize multiple namespaces;
> 2. add configuration dynamically to conntrackd (without restarting
> the daemon).

Those seem interesting to have, definitely.

My plan is to release conntrack-tools 1.4.0 by the time Linux kernel
3.6 is released since it contains a major milestone (user-space
helper support), that will be quite soon.

We can schedule this for some 1.6.0 release. So I can keep these
namespace changes in some branch until they are merged to master.

I'd start by point 2 then go back to the namespace support, but it's
up to you.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-06 17:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-01  1:11 [PATCH] conntrackd: make conntrackd namespace aware Ansis Atteka
2012-09-06  1:36 ` Ansis Atteka
2012-09-06 17:17   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]
2012-09-06 20:33     ` Ansis Atteka
2012-09-06 17:02 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2012-09-10 23:24   ` Ansis Atteka
2012-09-11 15:44     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2012-09-13  7:37       ` Ansis Atteka
2012-09-18 19:23         ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2012-09-18 22:36           ` Ansis Atteka
2012-09-19  8:21             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2012-09-28 20:05               ` Ansis Atteka
2012-10-16  4:55               ` Ansis Atteka
2012-11-15 12:20                 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2012-11-15 19:34                   ` Ansis Atteka

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