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From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
Cc: Phil Oester <kernel@linuxace.com>,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] netfilter: xt_TCPMSS: Fix violation of RFC879 in absence of MSS option
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 18:25:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130611162525.GA11547@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AE90C24D6B3A694183C094C60CF0A2F6026B7286@saturn3.aculab.com>

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 05:09:11PM +0100, David Laight wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 04:00:06PM +0100, David Laight wrote:
> > > To quote that bug:
> > >
> > > I stumbled upon this problem in debian bug #541658[1] ("[iceweasel] cannot open
> > > research.microsoft.com" - only worth reading for entertainment purposes) and,
> > > after that bug was closed, analysed it in my blog[2] until a friend of mine
> > > found out why the page loads when clamping mss to pmtu is disabled or
> > > restricted to a range (like with "iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp --tcp-flags
> > > SYN,RST SYN -m tcpmss --mss 1400:1536 -j TCPMSS --clamp-mss-to-pmtu") but
> > > doesn't load with "simple" clamping. His really great and detailed analysation
> > > of the problem may be seen at [3].
> > >
> > > If I read/understand that correctly, clamping to 1400 worked - there was
> > > no need to clamp all the way down to 536.
> > 
> > You are not understanding the issue correctly.  The reason the command worked with
> > "-m tcpmss --mss 1400:1536" is because that implies an MSS option was provided.
> > The issue occurs only when NO MSS option is sent.  In these cases, we cannot
> > ASSUME that it is ok to use some arbitrarily high value (1400 as you propose).
> > The RFC is clear on this point.
> 
> My problem is that I don't want TCP connections to drop the mss to
> 536 when talking to minimal/old implementations that don't add any
> options to SYN packets.

That will not happen if you use:

... -m tcpmss --mss 1400:1536 ...

as in your example above.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-11 16:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-10 16:07 [PATCH 0/5] netfilter fixes for 3.10-rc5 Pablo Neira Ayuso
2013-06-10 16:07 ` [PATCH 1/5] netfilter: nfnetlink_acct: fix incomplete dumping of objects Pablo Neira Ayuso
2013-06-10 16:07 ` [PATCH 2/5] netfilter: nfnetlink_cttimeout: " Pablo Neira Ayuso
2013-06-10 16:07 ` [PATCH 3/5] netfilter: xt_TCPMSS: Fix violation of RFC879 in absence of MSS option Pablo Neira Ayuso
2013-06-11  8:43   ` David Laight
2013-06-10  7:19     ` Phil Oester
2013-06-11 15:00       ` David Laight
2013-06-10  8:27         ` Phil Oester
2013-06-11 16:09           ` David Laight
2013-06-11 16:25             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]
2013-06-11 18:00               ` Jeff Haran
2013-06-11 18:14                 ` Rick Jones
2013-06-11 18:31                   ` Jeff Haran
2013-06-21  8:27                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2013-06-11 18:36   ` John Heffner
2013-06-10 16:07 ` [PATCH 4/5] netfilter: nfnetlink_queue: fix missing HW protocol Pablo Neira Ayuso
2013-06-10 16:07 ` [PATCH 5/5] ipvs: info leak in __ip_vs_get_dest_entries() Pablo Neira Ayuso
2013-06-10 20:32 ` [PATCH 0/5] netfilter fixes for 3.10-rc5 David Miller

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