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From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: WGH <wgh@torlan.ru>
Cc: Jozsef Kadlecsik <kadlec@blackhole.kfki.hu>,
	Phil Oester <kernel@linuxace.com>,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: conntrack, idle TCP connection and keep-alives
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 19:34:34 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131027193434.GA16816@macbook.localnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131027193243.GA16338@macbook.localnet>

On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 07:32:44PM +0000, Patrick McHardy wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 11:23:17PM +0400, WGH wrote:
> > On 27.10.2013 23:20, Patrick McHardy wrote:
> > > On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 08:14:19PM +0100, Jozsef Kadlecsik wrote:
> > >> I think a single flag could be sufficient: if the timer in conntrack goes 
> > >> off and the entry is in the ESTABLISHED state and this flag is not set, 
> > >> then send a TCP keepalive packet and start the timer with a short timeout. 
> > >> If we receive the reply packet, then the long ESTABLISHED timeout value 
> > >> can be restored and the flag cleared.
> > > Sure, I think we wouldn't even need that flag, we can just send the keepalive
> > > and set a short timeout. If a RST is received, the connection is killed
> > > anyway, otherwise it will be refreshed with the ESTABLISHED timeout.
> > >
> > > But we do need a timestamp value to pass PAWS.
> > I believe you forgot the third scenario: neither ACK nor RST is received
> > in reply.
> 
> Actually no, "... and set a short timeout ...".

Well, OK, we do need a flag to distinguish normal timeout from probe timeout.
But still I don't see how we can do this without increasing the size of
every conntrack by at least 4 bytes.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-27 19:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-26 20:14 conntrack, idle TCP connection and keep-alives WGH
2013-10-27 15:34 ` Phil Oester
2013-10-27 18:01   ` Patrick McHardy
2013-10-27 18:38     ` Patrick McHardy
2013-10-27 19:14       ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2013-10-27 19:20         ` Patrick McHardy
2013-10-27 19:23           ` WGH
2013-10-27 19:32             ` Patrick McHardy
2013-10-27 19:34               ` Patrick McHardy [this message]
2013-10-27 19:50                 ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2013-10-27 20:49                   ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2013-10-28  9:29                     ` Patrick McHardy
2013-10-27 18:22   ` WGH

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