From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
Cc: netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, tgraf@suug.ch
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] netfilter: nft_hash: no need for rcu in the hash set destroy path
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 14:28:14 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140902132813.GA29330@acer.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140902122207.GA11880@salvia>
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 02:22:07PM +0200, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 11:59:22AM +0100, Patrick McHardy wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 12:38:56PM +0200, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
> > > On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 11:14:41AM +0100, Patrick McHardy wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 11:38:39AM +0200, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
> > > > > The sets are released from the rcu callback, after the rule is removed
> > > > > from the chain list, which implies that nfnetlink cannot update the
> > > > > hashes (thus, no resizing may occur) and no packets are walking on the
> > > > > set anymore.
> > > >
> > > > Unrelated to your patch, but to the RCU destruction: how does that make
> > > > sure that nfnetlink notifications are received in the proper order?
> > > > I mean, theoretically a new set with the same name could exist at that
> > > > time. The same problem exists for all objects that have user defined
> > > > identifiers or refer to them.
> > >
> > > All the events (with the exception of anonymous sets) are sent in
> > > order from the commit path, so they are delivered in order.
> >
> > Sure, I was talking about independant additions:
> >
> > - delete set X
> > - RCU callback delayed
> > - add set X, notify
> > - RCU callback executes, notifies for delete set X
>
> Right, that's indeed a problem for bound-to-rule anonymous sets.
>
> > Same thing applies to all other objects that don't have a unique identifier
> > chosen by the kernel.
>
> All other objects are always notified in order from the commit path,
> so they seem fine to me.
You're right, this only seems to affect sets.
> > > The anonymous sets are problematic, we need to notify this from the
> > > commit path too to ensure the right ordering. I was trying to avoid
> > > some specific notify() interface in expr->ops but it seems we need it
> > > for nft_lookup.c.
> > >
> > > Can you think of a better solution?
> >
> > No, unless we can come up with a way that's synchronous.
>
> I would really like not to go back to the two nearly consecutive
> synchronize_rcu() calls, it's slow. I've been thinking on replacing
> the current check in the packet path by static keys, but I didn't
> manage to find the way yet.
Which check exactly are you referring to?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-09-02 13:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-09-02 9:38 [PATCH 1/3] netfilter: nft_hash: no need for rcu in the hash set destroy path Pablo Neira Ayuso
2014-09-02 9:38 ` [PATCH 2/3] netfilter: nft_rbtree: no need for spinlock from " Pablo Neira Ayuso
2014-09-02 11:11 ` Thomas Graf
2014-09-02 9:38 ` [PATCH 3/3] rhashtable: fix lockdep splat in rhashtable_destroy() Pablo Neira Ayuso
2014-09-02 11:02 ` Thomas Graf
2014-09-02 10:14 ` [PATCH 1/3] netfilter: nft_hash: no need for rcu in the hash set destroy path Patrick McHardy
2014-09-02 10:38 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2014-09-02 10:59 ` Patrick McHardy
2014-09-02 12:22 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2014-09-02 12:36 ` Thomas Graf
2014-09-02 13:28 ` Patrick McHardy [this message]
2014-09-02 13:41 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2014-09-02 14:00 ` Patrick McHardy
2014-09-02 11:02 ` Thomas Graf
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