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From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Cc: netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, arturo.borrero.glez@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH nf-next 3/3 v2] netfilter: nf_tables: export rule-set generation ID
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 18:10:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140911161040.GA5824@salvia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140911153243.GE7600@acer.localdomain>

On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 04:32:44PM +0100, Patrick McHardy wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 05:20:19PM +0200, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
> > This patch exposes the ruleset generation ID in three ways:
> > 
> > 1) The new command NFT_MSG_GETGEN that exposes the 32-bits ruleset
> >    generation ID. This ID is incremented in every commit and it
> >    should be large enough to avoid wraparound problems.
> > 
> > 2) The less significant 16-bits of the generation ID is exposed through
> >    the nfgenmsg->res_id header field. This allows us to quickly catch
> >    if the ruleset has change between two consecutive list dumps from
> >    different object lists (in this specific case I think the risk of
> >    wraparound is unlikely).
> > 
> > 3) Userspace subscribers may receive notifications of new rule-set
> >    generation after every commit. This also provides an alternative
> >    way to monitor the generation ID. If the events are lost, the
> >    userspace process hits a overrun error, so it knows that it is
> >    working with a stale ruleset anyway.
> 
> Correct, there's just one thing to consider here, which is what happens
> once we add active ruleset state notifications, like counters, limit
> etc. At that point its not clear anymore whether changes have happened.
> OTOH it would be just a false positive, so at least things would keep
> working.

Right, I can put the genid notification in a different nfnetlink
multicast group (NFNLGRP_NFTABLES_GENID) to avoid false positives if
you like the idea, we have plenty of spare groups.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-11 16:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-11 15:20 [PATCH nf-next 1/3] netfilter: nf_tables: add NFTA_MASQ_UNSPEC to nft_masq_attributes Pablo Neira Ayuso
2014-09-11 15:20 ` [PATCH nf-next 2/3] netfilter: nfnetlink: use original skbuff when committing/aborting Pablo Neira Ayuso
2014-09-11 15:20 ` [PATCH nf-next 3/3 v2] netfilter: nf_tables: export rule-set generation ID Pablo Neira Ayuso
2014-09-11 15:32   ` Patrick McHardy
2014-09-11 16:10     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]
2014-09-11 16:45       ` Patrick McHardy
2014-09-11 16:57         ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2014-09-11 17:22           ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2014-09-11 17:35             ` Patrick McHardy
2014-09-12  7:47               ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2014-09-11 15:46   ` Arturo Borrero Gonzalez
2014-09-11 16:25     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso

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