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From: Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>
To: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Cc: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
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	"josh@joshtriplett.org" <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/9] rhashtable: Per bucket locks & deferred expansion/shrinking
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 12:58:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150119125813.GA7672@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150117080255.GA3968@acer.localdomain>

On 01/17/15 at 08:02am, Patrick McHardy wrote:
> On 16.01, Thomas Graf wrote:
> > Resize operations should be *really* rare as well unless you start
> > with really small hash table sizes and constantly add/remove at the
> > watermark.
> 
> Which are far enough from each other that this should only happen
> in really unlucky cases.
> 
> > Re-dumping on insert/remove is a different story of course. Do you
> > care about missed insert/removals for dumps? If not we can do the
> > sequence number consistency checking for resizing only.
> 
> No, that has always been undeterministic with netlink. We want to
> dump everything that was present when the dump was started and is
> still present when it finishes. Anything else can be handled using
> notifications.

It looks like we want to provide two ways to resolve this:

1) Walker holds ht->mutex the entire time to block out resizes.
   Optionally the walker can acquire all bucket locks. Such
   scenarios would seem to benefit from either a single or a very
   small number of bucket locks.

2) Walker holds ht->mutex during individual Netlink message
   construction periods and relases it while user space reads the
   message. rhashtable provides a hook which is called when a
   resize operation is scheduled allowing for the walker code to
   bump a sequence number and notify user space that the dump is
   inconsistent, causing it to request a new dump.

I'll provide an API to achieve (2). (1) is already achieveable with
the current API.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-19 12:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <cover.1418647641.git.tgraf@suug.ch>
2014-12-15 12:51 ` [PATCH 1/9] rhashtable: Do hashing inside of rhashtable_lookup_compare() Thomas Graf
2014-12-15 12:51 ` [PATCH 5/9] nft_hash: Remove rhashtable_remove_pprev() Thomas Graf
2014-12-15 12:51 ` [PATCH 7/9] rhashtable: Per bucket locks & deferred expansion/shrinking Thomas Graf
2015-01-16 15:34   ` Patrick McHardy
2015-01-16 15:58     ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-16 16:03       ` Patrick McHardy
2015-01-16 16:15         ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-16 16:32           ` Patrick McHardy
2015-01-16 16:38             ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-16 16:51               ` Patrick McHardy
2015-01-16 16:43             ` David Laight
2015-01-16 16:53               ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-16 18:36                 ` Patrick McHardy
2015-01-16 19:18                   ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-16 19:35                     ` Patrick McHardy
2015-01-16 20:46                       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-01-16 20:53                         ` Patrick McHardy
2015-01-19  9:01                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-01-21  5:23                           ` Herbert Xu
2015-01-21  5:29                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-01-21  5:30                               ` Herbert Xu
2015-01-21  5:36                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-01-16 20:49                       ` Herbert Xu
2015-01-16 21:31                         ` Patrick McHardy
2015-01-17  0:33                           ` Herbert Xu
2015-01-17  8:06                             ` Patrick McHardy
2015-01-17  9:32                               ` Herbert Xu
2015-01-17  9:51                                 ` Patrick McHardy
2015-01-17 10:13                                   ` Herbert Xu
2015-01-17 11:56                                     ` Patrick McHardy
2015-01-16 21:36                       ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-16 22:07                         ` Patrick McHardy
2015-01-16 23:34                           ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-17  8:02                             ` Patrick McHardy
2015-01-19 12:58                               ` Thomas Graf [this message]
2015-01-19  9:45                         ` David Laight

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