From: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
To: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Cc: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>,
netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, arturo.borrero.glez@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH nft v2 3/3] src: add xt compat support
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 22:51:35 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150409205135.GG20653@breakpoint.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150409203616.GA27610@acer.localdomain>
Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net> wrote:
> On 09.04, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
> > At compilation time, you have to pass this option.
> >
> > # ./configure --with-xtables
> >
> > And libxtables needs to be installed in your system.
> >
> > This patch allows you to use xt extensions from nft, eg.
> >
> > # nft add rule filter output \
> > tcp flags syn xt target TCPMSS [ --clamp-mss-to-pmtu ]
> >
> > This feature requires that libxtables is installed in your system.
> >
> > This provides access to all existing xt modules from nft. Users can
> > meanwhile use xt extension until we can provide native expressions.
> >
> > You can build this optionally, if disabled it displays an error:
> >
> > # nft add rule filter output tcp flags syn xt target TCPMSS [ --clamp-mss-to-pmtu ]
> > <cmdline>:1:38-77: Error: this build does not support xtables
> > add rule filter output tcp flags syn xt target TCPMSS [ --clamp-mss-to-pmtu ]
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > so you know your build doesn't support this.
>
> Before review this patch, my main question is - are we sure we want to do
> this? How will this affect our plans to get rid of the iptables code
> at some point in the future? Arguably its a compatibility question, if we
> support this in nft people will use it and we can't simply remove it.
FWIW I think Patricks concerns are well-founded, if we do this we cannot
remove those extensions, ever.
And this will include several dubious modules (time match for example).
Why would I want to re-write a working nft+compat ruleset to one
that only uses native expressions?
Whats the point of providing a 'native' replacement for an existing xtables
target if we can just use the xtables version?
Thus I'm leaning towards not adding any compat support in nft.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-04-09 20:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-09 16:55 [PATCH nft v2 1/3] include: cache ip_tables.h, ip6_tables.h, arp_tables.h and ebtables.h Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-09 16:55 ` [PATCH nft v2 2/3] src: expose delinearize/linearize structures and stmt_error() Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-09 16:55 ` [PATCH nft v2 3/3] src: add xt compat support Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-09 20:36 ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-09 20:51 ` Florian Westphal [this message]
2015-04-09 22:34 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-09 22:36 ` Florian Westphal
2015-04-09 22:56 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-09 23:23 ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-09 23:40 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-09 23:45 ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-09 23:59 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-10 0:05 ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-10 0:26 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-10 0:33 ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-09 23:22 ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-09 23:21 ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-09 23:44 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-09 23:48 ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-10 0:07 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-10 0:11 ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-10 0:36 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-10 0:36 ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-10 1:00 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-09 22:33 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-09 23:18 ` Patrick McHardy
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