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From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>,
	Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] net: move qdisc ingress filtering on top of netfilter ingress hooks
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 12:28:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150430102841.GA3373@salvia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5541F4E9.8080009@iogearbox.net>

On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 11:24:57AM +0200, Daniel Borkmann wrote:
> On 04/30/2015 08:02 AM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> ...
> >My point is that I agree that cleanup of ingress qdisc is needed.
> >I disagree with drastic measures.
> >Just add your nf_hook to ingress and let's see how things evolve.
> >We have rx_handler and all of ptype hooks in there. One can argue
> >that rx_handler overlaps with nf_hook too ? ;)
> >We cannot generalize them all under one 'hook' infra.
> >nf needs to do nf_hook_state_init() and pass it around which
> >no one else needs. That's the cost others should not pay.
> 
> +1

Actually, the state object can be useful to resolve the major bug in
actions that mangle skbs in an illegal way, as we can use it to pass
back to the ingress path the new skb_shared_check()'ed skb.

The genericity that they state object introduces comes with a cost, no
doubt, but it helps to extend things later on and resolve tricky
situation like the one above without large patches to propagate new
state information that you need all over the code.

Regarding the performance argument that is repeating over and over
again, we all here are quite aware here that there's is a *good room
for improvement* in qdisc ingress itself...

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-30 10:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-29 18:53 [PATCH 0/6 RFC] Netfilter ingress support (v2) Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-29 18:53 ` [PATCH 1/6] netfilter: cleanup struct nf_hook_ops indentation Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-29 18:53 ` [PATCH 2/6] netfilter: add hook list to nf_hook_state Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-29 18:53 ` [PATCH 3/6] netfilter: add nf_hook_list_active() Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-29 18:53 ` [PATCH 4/6] netfilter: move generic hook infrastructure into net/core/hooks.c Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-29 23:59   ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-29 18:53 ` [PATCH 5/6] net: add netfilter ingress hook Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-29 18:53 ` [PATCH 6/6] net: move qdisc ingress filtering on top of netfilter ingress hooks Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-29 20:27   ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-29 23:32     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-30  0:10       ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-30  0:20       ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-30  0:30         ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-30  0:41           ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-30  0:48             ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-30  1:16               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-04-30  1:34                 ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-30  2:22                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-04-30  3:11                     ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-30 11:55                       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-04-30 15:33                         ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-30 16:09                           ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-30 16:36                             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-30 19:16                               ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-30 23:01                                 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-05-01  1:15                           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-04-30 10:12                 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-30 19:05                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-04-30  0:37       ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-30  1:04         ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-30  1:43           ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-30  2:35             ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-04-30  3:29               ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-30  4:05                 ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-30  6:02                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-04-30  9:24                     ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-30 10:28                       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]
2015-04-29 23:36     ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-30  0:00       ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-30  0:15         ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-29 21:53   ` Cong Wang
2015-04-29 23:37     ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-29 23:42     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso

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