From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>
Cc: netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>,
Madhu Challa <challa@noironetworks.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH nf-next] netfilter: conntrack: add support for flextuples
Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 15:08:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150504130828.GA3607@salvia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55475F13.1000304@iogearbox.net>
On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 01:59:15PM +0200, Daniel Borkmann wrote:
> Hi Pablo,
>
> On 05/04/2015 12:34 PM, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
> >On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 12:23:41PM +0200, Daniel Borkmann wrote:
> >>This patch adds support for the possibility of doing NAT with
> >>conflicting IP address/ports tuples from multiple, isolated
> >>tenants, represented as network namespaces and netfilter zones.
> >>For such internal VRFs, traffic is directed to a single or shared
> >>pool of public IP address/port range for the external/public VRF.
> >>
> >>Or in other words, this allows for doing NAT *between* VRFs
> >>instead of *inside* VRFs without requiring each tenant to NAT
> >>twice or to use its own dedicated IP address to SNAT to, also
> >>with the side effect to not requiring to expose a unique marker
> >>per tenant in the data center to the public.
> >>
> >>Simplified example scheme:
> >>
> >> +--- VRF A ---+ +--- CT Zone 1 --------+
> >> | 10.1.1.1/8 +--+ 10.1.1.1 ESTABLISHED |
> >> +-------------+ +--+-------------------+
> >> |
> >> +--+--+
> >> | L3 +-SNAT-[20.1.1.1:20000-40000]--eth0
> >> +--+--+
> >> |
> >> +-- VRF B ----+ +--- CT Zone 2 --------+
> >> | 10.1.1.1/8 +--+ 10.1.1.1 ESTABLISHED |
> >> +-------------+ +----------------------+
> >
> >So, it's the skb->mark that survives between the containers. I'm not
> >sure it makes sense to keep a zone 0 from the container that performs
> >SNAT. Instead, we can probably restore the zone based on the
> >skb->mark. The problem is that the existing zone is u16. In nftables,
> >Patrick already mentioned about supporting casting so we can do
> >something like:
> >
> > ct zone set (u16)meta mark
> >
> >So you can reserve a part of the skb->mark to map it to the zone. I'm
> >not very convinced about this.
>
> Thanks for the feedback! I'm not yet sure though, I understood the
> above suggestion to the described problem fully so far, i.e. how
> would replies on the SNAT find the correct zone again?
>From the original direction, you can set the zone based on the mark:
-m mark --mark 1 -j CT --zone 1
Then, from the reply direction, you can restore it:
-m conntrack --ctzone 1 -j MARK --set-mark 1
...
--ctzone is not supported though, it would need a new revision for the
conntrack match.
> Our issue simplified, basically boils down to: given are two zones,
> both use IP address <A>, both zones want to talk to IP address <B> in
> a third zone. To let those two with <A> talk to <B>, connections are
> being routed + SNATed from a non-unique to a unique address/port
> tuple [which the proposed approach solves], so they can talk to <B>.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-05-04 13:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-04 10:23 [PATCH nf-next] netfilter: conntrack: add support for flextuples Daniel Borkmann
2015-05-04 10:34 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-05-04 11:59 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-05-04 13:08 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]
2015-05-04 13:47 ` Thomas Graf
2015-05-06 14:27 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-05-06 18:00 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-05-06 18:50 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-05-07 12:01 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-05-07 18:10 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-05-08 9:45 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-05-04 13:51 ` Daniel Borkmann
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