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* [nft] syntax for retrieving ct byte/packet counters
@ 2016-01-07 13:43 Florian Westphal
  2016-01-07 17:53 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Florian Westphal @ 2016-01-07 13:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: netfilter-devel

Hi.

I've finished the kernel patch to fetch byte/packet conntrack counters.

As discussed earlier, I added two modes:
- fetch original or reply
- fetch sum of original+reply direction
  (i.e. nft_ct adds original+reply before storing result into register).

How should that look like on the userspace side?

I see two solutions to handle this.  Option one is to add a new
pseudo-direction, e.g. "both":
nft ... ct packets both gt 42
nft ... ct packets original gt 42

Second option -- which I'd prefer -- is to allow omitting the direction.
This seems possible w.o. adding parser problems by switching direction
and key, so we'd have:

nft ... ct packets gt 42
nft ... ct reply packets gt 42
nft ... ct original packets gt 42

Because parser would just add

ct_key_counters	: BYTES | PACKETS;
ct_expr:	CT ct_key_counters | CT STRING ct_key_counters

which doesn't introduce ambiguity (original and reply aren't scanner
tokens, unlike ct_keys)

If we follow this route, i'd also swap the direction and key argument
for the existing saddr/daddr/etc keys, i.e. instead of

... 'ct saddr original 1.2.3.4' we'd have
... ct original saddr 1.2.3.4 ...

This would make packets/bytes work *both* like ct_keys with and without
direction:

ct mark gt 42   ---> fetch mark
ct original mark gt 42	-> parser error, mark can only be used w/o dir
ct saddr 1.2.3.4 -> parser error, saddr needs direction
ct original saddr 1.2.3.4 -> fetch ct saddr in original dir
ct packets gt 42 -> fetch sum of packet counter for original and reply
ct original packets gt 42 -> fetch packet counter for original

What do others think?

Swapping key and direction breaks backwards compatibility but
this was added only recently so I think it shouldn't be a problem.

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* Re: [nft] syntax for retrieving ct byte/packet counters
  2016-01-07 13:43 [nft] syntax for retrieving ct byte/packet counters Florian Westphal
@ 2016-01-07 17:53 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Pablo Neira Ayuso @ 2016-01-07 17:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Florian Westphal; +Cc: netfilter-devel

On Thu, Jan 07, 2016 at 02:43:51PM +0100, Florian Westphal wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> I've finished the kernel patch to fetch byte/packet conntrack counters.
> 
> As discussed earlier, I added two modes:
> - fetch original or reply
> - fetch sum of original+reply direction
>   (i.e. nft_ct adds original+reply before storing result into register).
> 
> How should that look like on the userspace side?
> 
> I see two solutions to handle this.  Option one is to add a new
> pseudo-direction, e.g. "both":
> nft ... ct packets both gt 42
> nft ... ct packets original gt 42
> 
> Second option -- which I'd prefer -- is to allow omitting the direction.
> This seems possible w.o. adding parser problems by switching direction
> and key, so we'd have:
> 
> nft ... ct packets gt 42
> nft ... ct reply packets gt 42
> nft ... ct original packets gt 42
> 
> Because parser would just add
> 
> ct_key_counters	: BYTES | PACKETS;
> ct_expr:	CT ct_key_counters | CT STRING ct_key_counters
> 
> which doesn't introduce ambiguity (original and reply aren't scanner
> tokens, unlike ct_keys)
> 
> If we follow this route, i'd also swap the direction and key argument
> for the existing saddr/daddr/etc keys, i.e. instead of
> 
> ... 'ct saddr original 1.2.3.4' we'd have
> ... ct original saddr 1.2.3.4 ...
> 
> This would make packets/bytes work *both* like ct_keys with and without
> direction:
> 
> ct mark gt 42   ---> fetch mark
> ct original mark gt 42	-> parser error, mark can only be used w/o dir
> ct saddr 1.2.3.4 -> parser error, saddr needs direction
> ct original saddr 1.2.3.4 -> fetch ct saddr in original dir
> ct packets gt 42 -> fetch sum of packet counter for original and reply
> ct original packets gt 42 -> fetch packet counter for original
> 
> What do others think?
> 
> Swapping key and direction breaks backwards compatibility but
> this was added only recently so I think it shouldn't be a problem.

If that is the only problem, we didn't make any release so far, so no
objection from my side.

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