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From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
Cc: Laura Garcia Liebana <nevola@gmail.com>,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, shivanib134@gmail.com,
	outreachy-kernel@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] extensions: libxt_statistic: Add translation to nft
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 13:33:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160302123339.GA4930@salvia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160302121033.GA4348@breakpoint.cc>

On Wed, Mar 02, 2016 at 01:10:33PM +0100, Florian Westphal wrote:
> Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org> wrote:
> > I think meta random 0.10000000009 will only match for the exact case.
> 
> No; I thought that 'nft ... meta random 0.5' should on average match half of
> the time so the proposed nft prandom patch set makes LE the default op.
> 
> So meta random 0.1 is in fact 'meta random le 0.1' (and nft will display
> it like this).
> 
> > > $ iptables-translate -A INPUT -m statistic --mode random ! --probability
> > > 0.1 -j ACCEPT
> > > nft add rule ip filter INPUT meta random != 0.10000000009 counter accept
> > 
> > Then, the opposite has to be:
> > 
> >         meta random gte 0.10000000009
> 
> Good point, this is not intuitive.
> 
> Currently if no operator is given and the type is TYPE_PROBABILITY then
> we just use le instead of eq (just like we pick "&" in some cases).
> 
> But if user asks 'meta random ne 0.1' then the match propability is close
> to 100%.
> 
> Do you think its enough to just document that you need to use le/ge etc.
> for this?
>
> Other option would be to rewrite NE to GE if rh value is a probability,
> but I'm not sure if such 'helpful' logic isn't too likely to get in the
> way.
> 
> Yet another option is to just disallow EQ and NE ops and throw an error.
> 
> Other suggestions?

I'm fine with the probability scaling, but I think we should keep this
consistent with other selectors, so I would use lt and gte instead
here.

We can potentially use ranges here too and other available operations
such as prefixes (although this one I don't know use case for this).

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-02 12:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-01 20:40 [PATCH v3] extensions: libxt_statistic: Add translation to nft Laura Garcia Liebana
2016-03-02 11:46 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2016-03-02 12:10   ` Florian Westphal
2016-03-02 12:33     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]
2016-03-02 12:37       ` Florian Westphal
2016-03-02 12:46         ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2016-03-02 13:44           ` Florian Westphal
2016-03-02 13:52     ` Jan Engelhardt
2016-03-02 14:50       ` Florian Westphal
2016-03-02 14:54         ` Jan Engelhardt
2016-03-02 14:59           ` Florian Westphal
2016-03-02 15:17         ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2016-03-02 15:29           ` Florian Westphal
2016-03-02 15:56             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso

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