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From: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
To: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@inai.de>
Cc: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>,
	Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>,
	Laura Garcia Liebana <nevola@gmail.com>,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, shivanib134@gmail.com,
	outreachy-kernel@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] extensions: libxt_statistic: Add translation to nft
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 15:50:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160302145016.GF4348@breakpoint.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.20.1603021409540.15745@nerf40.vanv.qr>

Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@inai.de> wrote:
> On Wednesday 2016-03-02 13:10, Florian Westphal wrote:
> >>         case XT_STATISTIC_MODE_RANDOM:
> >>                 if ((prandom_u32() & 0x7FFFFFFF) < info->u.random.probability)
> >> 
> >> --probability seems to check for "less than" the random value.
> >
> >Yes. [...] 
> >Other suggestions?
> 
> "--probability" is meant to represent saying "with a probability
> of p=10%, ...". This does not mandate any particular operator.

Right, that was my reasoning for making meta random 0.1 behave
like 'match with a probabiliy of 10%'.

> Furthermore, it surprises me that iptables even supports
> ! --probability, because you can just express it as 1-p
> instead.

Yes.

So my suggestion is this:

for nft v2 of meta random support:

- keep the 'implicit LE op' behaviour so that
meta random 0.1 means '10% probability of matching'.
- change display to hide the LE detail from the user, i.e.
don't show 'meta random le 0.1' but 'meta random 0.1'.
[ I agree with Jan, its detail, users can still see this
with debug output on ].

Don't change anything else, i.e.

meta random == 0.1 will match with a probability of 1 in 0xfffffff
on average.  It does what you asked it to do ;)

For the translation patch, if ! is given, translate it to the inverse
as per Jans instruction, e.g.

--probability ! 0.1 is translated to

meta random 0.9

If there are no further comments, I will send a v2 for nft meta random
side soon.
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  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-02 14:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-01 20:40 [PATCH v3] extensions: libxt_statistic: Add translation to nft Laura Garcia Liebana
2016-03-02 11:46 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2016-03-02 12:10   ` Florian Westphal
2016-03-02 12:33     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2016-03-02 12:37       ` Florian Westphal
2016-03-02 12:46         ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2016-03-02 13:44           ` Florian Westphal
2016-03-02 13:52     ` Jan Engelhardt
2016-03-02 14:50       ` Florian Westphal [this message]
2016-03-02 14:54         ` Jan Engelhardt
2016-03-02 14:59           ` Florian Westphal
2016-03-02 15:17         ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2016-03-02 15:29           ` Florian Westphal
2016-03-02 15:56             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso

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