From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
Vineet Gupta <Vineet.Gupta1@synopsys.com>,
Waiman Long <waiman.long@hpe.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
manfred@colorfullife.com, dave@stgolabs.net,
boqun.feng@gmail.com, tj@kernel.org, pablo@netfilter.org,
kaber@trash.net, davem@davemloft.net, oleg@redhat.com,
netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, sasha.levin@oracle.com,
hofrat@osadl.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/3] locking: Introduce smp_acquire__after_ctrl_dep
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 06:06:28 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160607130628.GN5506@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c8b77029-7652-04e7-efaa-693206b7ec62@stressinduktion.org>
On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 02:41:44PM +0200, Hannes Frederic Sowa wrote:
> On 07.06.2016 09:15, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >>
> >> diff --git a/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt b/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
> >> index 147ae8ec836f..a4d0a99de04d 100644
> >> --- a/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
> >> +++ b/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
> >> @@ -806,6 +806,41 @@ out-guess your code. More generally, although READ_ONCE() does force
> >> the compiler to actually emit code for a given load, it does not force
> >> the compiler to use the results.
> >>
> >> +In addition, control dependencies apply only to the then-clause and
> >> +else-clause of the if-statement in question. In particular, it does
> >> +not necessarily apply to code following the if-statement:
> >> +
> >> + q = READ_ONCE(a);
> >> + if (q) {
> >> + WRITE_ONCE(b, p);
> >> + } else {
> >> + WRITE_ONCE(b, r);
> >> + }
> >> + WRITE_ONCE(c, 1); /* BUG: No ordering against the read from "a". */
> >> +
> >> +It is tempting to argue that there in fact is ordering because the
> >> +compiler cannot reorder volatile accesses and also cannot reorder
> >> +the writes to "b" with the condition. Unfortunately for this line
> >> +of reasoning, the compiler might compile the two writes to "b" as
> >> +conditional-move instructions, as in this fanciful pseudo-assembly
> >> +language:
>
> I wonder if we already guarantee by kernel compiler settings that this
> behavior is not allowed by at least gcc.
>
> We unconditionally set --param allow-store-data-races=0 which should
> actually prevent gcc from generating such conditional stores.
>
> Am I seeing this correct here?
In this case, the store to "c" is unconditional, so pulling it forward
would not generate a data race. However, the compiler is still prohibited
from pulling it forward because it is not allowed to reorder volatile
references. So, yes, the compiler cannot reorder, but for a different
reason.
Some CPUs, on the other hand, can do this reordering, as Will Deacon
pointed out earlier in this thread.
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-06-07 13:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-05-24 14:27 [RFC][PATCH 0/3] spin_unlock_wait and assorted borkage Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-24 14:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/3] locking: Introduce smp_acquire__after_ctrl_dep Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <57451581.6000700@hpe.com>
2016-05-25 4:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-05-25 5:39 ` Boqun Feng
2016-05-25 14:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-05-25 15:20 ` Waiman Long
2016-05-25 15:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-05-25 16:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-25 16:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-05-25 18:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-06-03 9:18 ` Vineet Gupta
2016-06-03 9:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-03 12:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-06-03 12:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-03 12:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-03 13:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-06-03 13:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-06-03 13:45 ` Will Deacon
2016-06-04 15:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-06-06 17:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-06-07 7:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-07 12:41 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-06-07 13:06 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2016-06-07 14:59 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-06-07 15:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-06-07 17:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-07 18:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-06-07 18:01 ` Will Deacon
2016-06-07 18:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-06-07 18:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-06-07 18:37 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-05-24 14:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/3] locking: Annotate spin_unlock_wait() users Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-24 16:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-05-24 16:22 ` Tejun Heo
2016-05-24 16:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-25 19:28 ` Tejun Heo
2016-05-24 16:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-24 14:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/3] locking,netfilter: Fix nf_conntrack_lock() Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-24 14:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <3e1671fc-be0f-bc95-4fbb-6bfc56e6c15b@colorfullife.com>
2016-05-26 13:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
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