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From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@c-s.fr>
Cc: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>,
	Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Seeking help for implementing CT HELPER in nftables
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 16:24:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160923142435.GA17227@salvia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c93e2f7e-fe6b-b43d-c1d4-0c57287ff06c@c-s.fr>

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 12:45:06PM +0200, Christophe Leroy wrote:
> Le 20/09/2016 à 17:38, Florian Westphal a écrit :
[...]
> >nft will need to populate this (or rather, libnftnl will do this on
> >behalf of nft).
> >
> >Currently we do this:
> >nft --debug=netlink add rule filter i ct helper set foo
> >ip filter i
> >  [ immediate reg 1 0x006f6f66 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 ]

Florian, Christophe, sorry for this late jump on this.

If we pass the helper name as string, then helper autoload will not
work as we don't have a way to solve this from the packet path.

To solve this, I'm considering a different approach. Basically,
explicit preload the helpers and pass a helper handle through
register instead.

In the ruleset file, this would look like this:

        table ip x {
                helper ftp protocol tcp                 #1

                chain y {
                        ...
                        tcp dport 21 ct helper set ftp  #2
                }
        }

Line #1 makes sure the ftp helper is loaded, we also increment reference
counter. This results in a handle that is dynamically allocated by
nf_tables, that can be retrieve in the same fashion of if_index (ie.
we can look up for the handle from the helper name).

Then from #2, we use the helper handle to refer to the helper.

Good things I see on this:

1) We can still use maps, although we would need a function to lookup
   for the nf_conntrack_helper struct form this handle. We can have a
   small hashtable for this (actually, we have similar approach currently
   to look up for helpers from ports in the deprecated automagic helper
   as signment).
2) We use a u32 instead of string to identify the helper.
3) We solve the module autoload issue.
4) We make sure helper module cannot be removed while there is a
   reference from the ruleset.
5) We can validate that the helper runs from the right layer 4
   protocol, eg. ensure the ftp helper is called for tcp since we can
   do this from nft evaluation phase.

This would need commands like:

        nft add helper ip x name ftp protocol tcp

and to delete this:

        nft delete helper ip x name ftp protocol tcp

Main drawback is that this needs a explicit definition of the helper,
but I think this extra line is ok if it helps resolve other problems.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-23 14:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-05 11:37 Seeking help for implementing CT HELPER in nftables christophe leroy
2016-03-07 13:20 ` Patrick McHardy
2016-03-08 23:25   ` Christophe Leroy
2016-04-12 13:40     ` Christophe Leroy
2016-04-12 13:51       ` Florian Westphal
2016-09-20 11:10         ` Christophe Leroy
2016-09-20 15:38           ` Florian Westphal
2016-09-23 10:45             ` Christophe Leroy
2016-09-23 14:24               ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]
2016-09-23 14:31                 ` Florian Westphal
2016-09-23 14:48                 ` Christophe Leroy
2016-09-23 15:19                   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2016-09-23 15:29                     ` Christophe Leroy
2016-09-23 15:46                 ` Florian Westphal

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