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From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: Arturo Borrero Gonzalez <arturo@debian.org>
Cc: Netfilter Development Mailing list <netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [conntrack-tools PATCH 4/4] conntrackd: introduce RequestResync option
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 15:18:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170425131843.GB1050@salvia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOkSjBiYGg76HichZbLkmyHyHTV3OPu3H7BqSE1ZJki0gh7pxA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 02:46:52PM +0200, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez wrote:
> On 25 April 2017 at 13:37, Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 07:28:16PM +0200, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez wrote:
> >> In some environments where both nodes of a cluster share all the conntracks,
> >> after an initial or manual resync, the conntrack information diverges from
> >> node to node.
> >>
> >> I have observed that this is not due to syncronization problems, given the
> >> link between the nodes is very stable and stats show no issues.
> >> So, this could be due to every node of the cluster seing slighly different
> >> traffic and flow updates, perhaps different tiemouts being applied to
> >> the conntracks in every node.
> >> A manual resync (using conntrackd -n) resolves these issues inmediately.
> >>
> >> This new configuration option tells conntrackd to request a resync
> >> with the other node, similar to what could happen manually using
> >> the 'conntrackd -n' command.
> >>
> >> By now this option is only valid in NOTRACK sync mode.
> >>
> >> Example configuration:
> >>
> >> [...]
> >> Sync {
> >>         Mode NOTRACK {
> >>                 DisableInternalCache on
> >>                 DisableExternalCache on
> >>                 RequestResync 30
> >
> > This looks very similar to the timer based approach that it is already
> > there. Did you give it a try?
> >
> 
> Yes. The timer based approach is... timer based (async).
> 
> It doesn't fit in an environment where you need to sync events as soon
> as they happen.

IIRC the timer based works like this:

1) If event occurs, sync message is send.
2) After some time, we send a message to tell the other peer the entry
   is still there.
3) If no message is received, then the entry expires.

> > This approach doesn't solve nicely the case where you have an entry
> > with a large timeout that got out of sync.
> 
> My idea is to be able to automatically force-sync nodes every 2 o 3
> minutes (in my case).

I see. Just wanted to know why the existing timer based doesn't fit
well for you.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-25 13:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-20 17:28 [conntrack-tools PATCH 1/4] conntrackd: factorice tx_queue functions Arturo Borrero Gonzalez
2017-04-20 17:28 ` [conntrack-tools PATCH 2/4] conntrackd: warn users about queue allocation errors Arturo Borrero Gonzalez
2017-04-25 11:34   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2017-04-25 12:40     ` Arturo Borrero Gonzalez
2017-04-25 13:16       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2017-05-02  8:34         ` Arturo Borrero Gonzalez
2017-05-02 10:03           ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2017-05-02 10:09           ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2017-04-20 17:28 ` [conntrack-tools PATCH 3/4] conntrackd: factorize resync operations Arturo Borrero Gonzalez
2017-05-08 17:52   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2017-04-20 17:28 ` [conntrack-tools PATCH 4/4] conntrackd: introduce RequestResync option Arturo Borrero Gonzalez
2017-04-25 11:37   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2017-04-25 12:46     ` Arturo Borrero Gonzalez
2017-04-25 13:18       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]
2017-04-26 11:32         ` Arturo Borrero Gonzalez
2017-05-01  9:13           ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2017-05-02  8:18             ` Arturo Borrero Gonzalez
2017-05-08 17:47               ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2017-05-08 17:52 ` [conntrack-tools PATCH 1/4] conntrackd: factorice tx_queue functions Pablo Neira Ayuso
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-04-20 16:40 Arturo Borrero Gonzalez
2017-04-20 16:40 ` [conntrack-tools PATCH 4/4] conntrackd: introduce RequestResync option Arturo Borrero Gonzalez

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