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From: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
To: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
Cc: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, coreteam@netfilter.org,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Gstir <david@sigma-star.at>,
	kaber@trash.net, "keescook@chromium.org" <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: nf_conntrack: Infoleak via CTA_ID and CTA_EXPECT_ID
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 21:55:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170630195547.GN9307@breakpoint.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f3d78dc5-7694-8e01-ac4d-54fc248a96f1@nod.at>

Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at> wrote:
> Florian,
> 
> Am 30.06.2017 um 21:35 schrieb Florian Westphal:
> > Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at> wrote:
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> I noticed that nf_conntrack leaks kernel addresses, it uses the memory address
> >> as identifier used for generating conntrack and expect ids..
> >> Since these ids are also visible to unprivileged users via network namespaces
> >> I suggest reverting these commits:
> > 
> > Why not use a hash of the address?
> 
> Would also work. Or xor it with a random number.
> 
> On the other hand, for user space it would be more useful when the conntrack id
> does not repeat that often. That's why I favor the good old counter method.
> Currently the conntrack id is reused very fast.
> e.g. in one of our applications we use the conntack id via NFQUEUE and watch the
> destroy events via conntrack. It happens regularly that a new connection has the
> same id than a different connection we saw some moments before, before we receive
> the destroy event from the conntrack socket.

Perhaps we can place that in a new extension (its not needed in any
fastpath ops)?

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-30 19:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-30 19:25 nf_conntrack: Infoleak via CTA_ID and CTA_EXPECT_ID Richard Weinberger
2017-06-30 19:35 ` Florian Westphal
2017-06-30 19:45   ` Richard Weinberger
2017-06-30 19:55     ` Florian Westphal [this message]
2017-06-30 20:23       ` Richard Weinberger
2017-07-01  9:44         ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2017-07-01 10:35         ` Florian Westphal
2017-07-12 21:26           ` Richard Weinberger
2017-07-12 22:19             ` Florian Westphal

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