From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Pablo Neira Ayuso Subject: Re: nf_conntrack: Infoleak via CTA_ID and CTA_EXPECT_ID Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 11:44:43 +0200 Message-ID: <20170701094443.GA1527@salvia> References: <20170630193544.GM9307@breakpoint.cc> <20170630195547.GN9307@breakpoint.cc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Florian Westphal , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , David Miller , netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, coreteam@netfilter.org, "netdev@vger.kernel.org" , David Gstir , kaber@trash.net, "keescook@chromium.org" To: Richard Weinberger Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-Id: netfilter-devel.vger.kernel.org On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 10:23:24PM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote: > Florian, > > Am 30.06.2017 um 21:55 schrieb Florian Westphal: > >>> Why not use a hash of the address? > >> > >> Would also work. Or xor it with a random number. > >> > >> On the other hand, for user space it would be more useful when the conntrack id > >> does not repeat that often. That's why I favor the good old counter method. > >> Currently the conntrack id is reused very fast. > >> e.g. in one of our applications we use the conntack id via NFQUEUE and watch the > >> destroy events via conntrack. It happens regularly that a new connection has the > >> same id than a different connection we saw some moments before, before we receive > >> the destroy event from the conntrack socket. > > > > Perhaps we can place that in a new extension (its not needed in any > > fastpath ops)? > > To get rid of the infoleak we have to re-introduce the id field in struct nf_conn > and struct nf_conntrack_expect. > Otherwise have nothing to compare against in the conntrack/expect remove case. > > So the only question is what to store, IMHO a counter that can wrap around is the > cheapest method and would also not harm the fast-path. I have a patch to assign ids through percpu approach that I can recover. It's dividing the u64 id space between the existing num_cpus.