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From: Phil Sutter <phil@nwl.cc>
To: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
Cc: Eric Leblond <eric@regit.org>,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
Subject: Re: [nft PATCH v2 2/4] libnftables: Introduce nft_ctx_flush_cache()
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 19:40:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171024174021.GR32305@orbyte.nwl.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171024155258.GB11705@salvia>

Hi,

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 05:52:59PM +0200, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 05:33:17PM +0200, Phil Sutter wrote:
[...]
> > diff --git a/include/nftables/nftables.h b/include/nftables/nftables.h
> > index 44d3e95d399e6..1207f10cd2457 100644
> > --- a/include/nftables/nftables.h
> > +++ b/include/nftables/nftables.h
> > @@ -51,6 +51,7 @@ enum nftables_exit_codes {
> >  struct nft_ctx *nft_ctx_new(uint32_t flags);
> >  void nft_ctx_free(struct nft_ctx *ctx);
> >  FILE *nft_ctx_set_output(struct nft_ctx *ctx, FILE *fp);
> > +void nft_ctx_flush_cache(struct nft_ctx *ctx);
> 
> I would prefer we rename this to nft_ctx_flush_cache().
> 
> Now, let's make an exercise of abstraction: You're not Phil Sutter,
> you're developer Vlamidir.
> 
> Vladimir wants to make a third party application based on libnftables
> that is going to rock the world.
> 
> He knows nothing about internals, but he looks at the API and say:
> "Hey, I can flush the cache, what is this cache concept?".
> 
> I'm telling this story because we're leaking an internal detail
> implementation. So I would just rename this to nft_ctx_reset(). This
> magic call just cleans up the context for you.

Hmm. Without further information, I would guess for nft_ctx_reset() to
reset all the context data which was previously modified using those
setters I defined. A possible cache to reset didn't come to mind since I
wasn't aware that there is a cache at all!

> Vladimir will be just need to know that he needs to reset context if
> he want to make incremental updates based on current.

I wonder whether we need to reset the cache at all: We could make
cache_update() ignore cache->initialized and instead check whether
nft_genid did change after calling netlink_genid_get() - if not, cache
is up to date, otherwise call cache_init(). When we discussed possible
performance implications of cache updates, I suggested just that as a
first counter-measure.

Could this work? Or am I missing something?

Cheers, Phil

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-24 17:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-23 15:33 [nft PATCH v2 0/4] libnftables preparations Phil Sutter
2017-10-23 15:33 ` [nft PATCH v2 1/4] libnftables: Move library stuff out of main.c Phil Sutter
2017-10-24 15:48   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2017-10-24 16:42     ` Phil Sutter
2017-11-09 13:25     ` [nft PATCH] libnftables: Unexport enum nftables_exit_codes Phil Sutter
2017-11-09 19:27       ` Phil Sutter
2017-11-10 11:27         ` [nft PATCH v2] " Phil Sutter
2017-11-13 12:31           ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2017-11-13 12:38             ` Phil Sutter
2017-11-13 14:08               ` [nft PATCH v3] " Phil Sutter
2017-11-16 13:33                 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2017-11-16 13:48                   ` Phil Sutter
2017-11-13 13:49             ` [nft PATCH v2] " Phil Sutter
2017-11-13 13:53               ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2017-11-13 14:04                 ` Phil Sutter
2017-10-23 15:33 ` [nft PATCH v2 2/4] libnftables: Introduce nft_ctx_flush_cache() Phil Sutter
2017-10-24 15:52   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2017-10-24 17:40     ` Phil Sutter [this message]
2017-10-25  9:25       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2017-10-25 11:40         ` [nft PATCH] libnftables: Get rid of explicit cache flushes Phil Sutter
2017-10-26 18:15           ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2017-10-23 15:33 ` [nft PATCH v2 3/4] cli: Use nft_run_cmd_from_buffer() Phil Sutter
2017-10-23 15:33 ` [nft PATCH v2 4/4] libnftables: Introduce getters and setters for everything Phil Sutter
2017-10-24 15:20 ` [nft PATCH v2 0/4] libnftables preparations Pablo Neira Ayuso
2017-10-24 16:29   ` Phil Sutter

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