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From: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
To: Eugene Crosser <crosser@average.org>
Cc: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@inai.de>,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Expose skb_gso_validate_network_len() [Was: ebtables: load-on-demand extensions]
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2020 13:04:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200620110404.GF26990@breakpoint.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <13977ee9-d93b-62fd-c86a-6c4466f63e38@average.org>

Eugene Crosser <crosser@average.org> wrote:
> On 19/06/2020 17:15, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
> >>>>> Why not make a patch to publicly expose the skb's data via nft_meta?
> >>>>> No more custom modules, no more userspace modifications [..]
> >>>>
> >>>> For our particular use case, we are running the skb through the kernel
> >>>> function `skb_validate_network_len()` with custom mtu size [..]
> 
> (the function name is skb_gso_validate_network_len, my mistake)
> 
> I previously expressed strong opinion that our "hack" to send icmp rejects on
> Layer 2 will not be useful for anyone else. But the existence of the commit from
> Michael Braun proves that I was wrong, and Jan Engelhards was right: it probably
> makes sense to implement the functionality that we need within the "new" nft
> infrastructure.

Yes, just do what Jan suggested and expost this in nft_meta.c

> As far as I understand, the part that is missing in the existing implementation
> is exposure (in some form) of `skb_gso_validate_network_len()` function to
> user-configurable filters.

No, nft already has "< $value" logic.
The only missing piece of the puzzle is a way to populate an nft
register with the "size per segment" value.

> Because the kernel does now expose the _size_ under
> which a gso skb can be segmented, but only the _boolean_ with the meaning "this
> gso skb can fit in mtu that you've specified",

It would be best to remove "static" from skb_gso_network_seglen() and
add an EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL for it.

Then, extend nft_meta.c to set register content to that for gso
or the ip/ipv6 packet size for !gso.

Then, extend nft to support something like

      nft insert rule bridge filter FORWARD \
        ip frag-off & 0x4000 != 0 \
        ip protocol tcp \
	meta nh_segment_length > 1400 \
        reject with icmp type frag-needed

[ NB: I suck at naming, so feel free to come up
  with somethng more descriptive than "nh_segment_length".
  l3size? nh-len...? ]

  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-20 11:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-16 14:48 ebtables: load-on-demand extensions Eugene Crosser
2020-06-16 15:21 ` Jan Engelhardt
2020-06-16 15:54   ` Eugene Crosser
2020-06-16 16:33     ` Jan Engelhardt
2020-06-19 13:45       ` Eugene Crosser
2020-06-19 15:15         ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2020-06-19 16:21           ` Eugene Crosser
2020-06-20 10:34           ` Expose skb_gso_validate_network_len() [Was: ebtables: load-on-demand extensions] Eugene Crosser
2020-06-20 11:04             ` Florian Westphal [this message]
2020-06-20 21:16               ` Eugene Crosser
2020-06-21  3:24                 ` Florian Westphal
2020-06-21 10:03                   ` Jan Engelhardt
2020-06-21 18:48                     ` Eugene Crosser
2020-06-21 23:52                     ` Florian Westphal
2020-06-22  4:50                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2020-06-22  7:41                         ` Eugene Crosser

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