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From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Tobias Waldekranz <tobias@waldekranz.com>,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, razor@blackwall.org, jeremy@azazel.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next,v3 0/9] netfilter: flowtable bridge and vlan enhancements
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 13:31:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201121123138.GA21560@salvia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201116225658.GA7247@salvia>

On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 11:56:58PM +0100, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 02:45:21PM -0800, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 23:36:15 +0100 Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
> > > > Are you saying A -> B traffic won't match so it will update the cache,
> > > > since conntrack flows are bi-directional?  
> > > 
> > > Yes, Traffic for A -> B won't match the flowtable entry, this will
> > > update the cache.
> > 
> > That's assuming there will be A -> B traffic without B sending a
> > request which reaches A, first.
> 
> B might send packets to A but this will not get anywhere. Assuming
> TCP, this will trigger retransmissions so B -> A will kick in to
> refresh the entry.
> 
> Is this scenario that you describe a showstopper?

I have been discussing the topology update by tracking fdb updates
with the bridge maintainer, I'll be exploring extensions to the
existing fdb_notify() infrastructure to deal with this scenario you
describe. On my side this topology update scenario is not a priority
to be supported in this patchset, but it's feasible to support it
later on.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-21 12:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-11 19:37 [PATCH net-next,v3 0/9] netfilter: flowtable bridge and vlan enhancements Pablo Neira Ayuso
2020-11-11 19:37 ` [PATCH net-next,v3 1/9] netfilter: flowtable: add hash offset field to tuple Pablo Neira Ayuso
2020-11-11 19:37 ` [PATCH net-next,v3 2/9] netfilter: flowtable: add xmit path types Pablo Neira Ayuso
2020-11-11 19:37 ` [PATCH net-next,v3 3/9] net: resolve forwarding path from virtual netdevice and HW destination address Pablo Neira Ayuso
2020-11-14  1:42   ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-11-14 12:00     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2020-11-11 19:37 ` [PATCH net-next,v3 4/9] net: 8021q: resolve forwarding path for vlan devices Pablo Neira Ayuso
2020-11-11 19:37 ` [PATCH net-next,v3 5/9] bridge: resolve forwarding path for bridge devices Pablo Neira Ayuso
2020-11-12  0:53   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2020-11-13 15:40     ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2020-11-11 19:37 ` [PATCH net-next,v3 6/9] netfilter: flowtable: use dev_fill_forward_path() to obtain ingress device Pablo Neira Ayuso
2020-11-11 19:37 ` [PATCH net-next,v3 7/9] netfilter: flowtable: use dev_fill_forward_path() to obtain egress device Pablo Neira Ayuso
2020-11-11 19:37 ` [PATCH net-next,v3 8/9] netfilter: flowtable: add vlan support Pablo Neira Ayuso
2020-11-11 19:37 ` [PATCH net-next,v3 9/9] selftests: netfilter: flowtable bridge and VLAN support Pablo Neira Ayuso
2020-11-14  1:55 ` [PATCH net-next,v3 0/9] netfilter: flowtable bridge and vlan enhancements Jakub Kicinski
2020-11-14 11:59   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2020-11-14 14:00     ` Tobias Waldekranz
2020-11-14 17:03       ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-11-16 22:18         ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2020-11-16 22:28           ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-11-16 22:36             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2020-11-16 22:45               ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-11-16 22:56                 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2020-11-21 12:31                   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]
2020-11-21 18:15                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-11-21 18:56                       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2020-11-21 19:23                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-11-22 11:33                           ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2020-11-16 22:31       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso

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