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From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
Cc: netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH nf-next] netfilter: nftables: introduce table ownership
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2021 14:48:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210201134813.GA24566@salvia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210201122455.GE12443@breakpoint.cc>

On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 01:24:55PM +0100, Florian Westphal wrote:
> Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org> wrote:
> > A userspace daemon like firewalld might need to monitor for netlink
> > updates to detect its ruleset removal by the (global) flush ruleset
> > command to ensure ruleset persistence. This adds extra complexity from
> > userspace and, for some little time, the firewall policy is not in
> > place.
> > 
> > This patch adds the NFT_MSG_SETOWNER netlink command which allows a
> > userspace program to own the table that creates in exclusivity.
> > 
> > Tables that are owned...
> > 
> > - can only be updated and removed by the owner, non-owners hit EPERM if
> >   they try to update it or remove it.
> > - are destroyed when the owner send the NFT_MSG_UNSETOWNER command,
> >   or the netlink socket is closed or the process is gone (implicit
> >   netlink socket closure).
> > - are skipped by the global flush ruleset command.
> > - are listed in the global ruleset.
> > 
> > The userspace process that sends the new NFT_MSG_SETOWNER command need
> > to leave open the netlink socket.
> > 
> > The NFTA_TABLE_OWNER netlink attribute specifies the netlink port ID to
> > identify the owner.
> 
> At least for systemd use case, there would be a need to allow
> add/removal of set elements from other user.

Then, probably a flag for this? Such flag would work like this?

- Allow for set element updates (from any process, no ownership).
- nft flush ruleset skips flushing the set.
- nft flush set x y flushes the content of this set.

The table owner would set on such flag.

Would this work for the scenario you describe below?

> At the moment, table is created by systemd-networkd which will update
> the masquerade set.
> 
> In case systemd-nspawn is used and configured to expose container
> services via dnat that will need to add the translation map:
> 
> add table ip io.systemd.nat
> add chain ip io.systemd.nat prerouting { type nat hook prerouting priority dstnat + 1; policy accept; }
> [..]
> # new generation 2 by process 1378 (systemd-network)
> add element ip io.systemd.nat masq_saddr { 192.168.159.192/28 }
> # new generation 3 by process 1378 (systemd-network)
> add element ip io.systemd.nat map_port_ipport { tcp . 2222 : 192.168.159.201 . 22 }
> # new generation 4 by process 1512 (systemd-nspawn)
> 
> > +struct nft_owner {
> > +	struct list_head	list;
> > +	possible_net_t		net;
> > +	u32			nlpid;
> > +};
> 
> I don't see why this is needed.
> Isn't it enough to record the nlpid in the table and set a flag that the table is
> owned by that pid?

I'll have a look.

> > +		    nft_active_genmask(table, genmask)) {
> > +			if (nlpid && table->nlpid && table->nlpid != nlpid)
> > +				return ERR_PTR(-EPERM);
> > +
> 
> i.e., (table->flags & OWNED) && table->nlpid != nlpid)?
> 
> On netlink sk destruction the owner flag could be cleared or table
> could be auto-zapped.

Default behaviour right now is: table is released if owner is gone.

It should be possible to add a flag to leave the ruleset in place
(owner flag would be cleared from NETLINK_RELEASE event path).

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-01 13:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-27  2:19 [PATCH nf-next] netfilter: nftables: introduce table ownership Pablo Neira Ayuso
2021-02-01 12:24 ` Florian Westphal
2021-02-01 13:48   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]
2021-02-01 14:13     ` Florian Westphal
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2021-01-27  1:52 Pablo Neira Ayuso

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