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From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
Cc: netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, Oz Shlomo <ozsh@nvidia.com>,
	Paul Blakey <paulb@nvidia.com>,
	Marcelo Ricardo Leitner <marcelo.leitner@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 nf] netfilter: conntrack: remove offload_pickup sysctl again
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 13:14:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210805111440.GA6246@salvia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210804130215.3625-1-fw@strlen.de>

On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 03:02:15PM +0200, Florian Westphal wrote:
> These two sysctls were added because the hardcoded defaults (2 minutes,
> tcp, 30 seconds, udp) turned out to be too low for some setups.
> 
> They appeared in 5.14-rc1 so it should be fine to remove it again.
> 
> Marcelo convinced me that there should be no difference between a flow
> that was offloaded vs. a flow that was not wrt. timeout handling.
> Thus the default is changed to those for TCP established and UDP stream,
> 5 days and 120 seconds, respectively.
> 
> Marcelo also suggested to account for the timeout value used for the
> offloading, this avoids increase beyond the value in the conntrack-sysctl
> and will also instantly expire the conntrack entry with altered sysctls.
> 
> Example:
>    nf_conntrack_udp_timeout_stream=60
>    nf_flowtable_udp_timeout=60
> 
> This will remove offloaded udp flows after one minute, rather than two.
> 
> An earlier version of this patch also cleared the ASSURED bit to
> allow nf_conntrack to evict the entry via early_drop (i.e., table full).
> However, it looks like we can safely assume that connection timed out
> via HW is still in established state, so this isn't needed.
> 
> Quoting Oz:
>  [..] the hardware sends all packets with a set FIN flags to sw.
>  [..] Connections that are aged in hardware are expected to be in the
>  established state.
> 
> In case it turns out that back-to-sw-path transition can occur for
> 'dodgy' connections too (e.g., one side disappeared while software-path
> would have been in RETRANS timeout), we can adjust this later.

Applied, thanks.

      parent reply	other threads:[~2021-08-05 11:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-04 13:02 [PATCH v2 nf] netfilter: conntrack: remove offload_pickup sysctl again Florian Westphal
2021-08-04 13:19 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2021-08-04 13:40   ` Oz Shlomo
2021-08-05 11:14 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]

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