From: Stefano Brivio <sbrivio@redhat.com>
To: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
Cc: netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH nf] nft_set_rbtree: Move clauses for expired nodes, last active node as leaf
Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 17:45:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220520174524.439b5fa2@elisabeth> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220517145709.08694803@elisabeth>
On Tue, 17 May 2022 14:57:09 +0200
Stefano Brivio <sbrivio@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 16 May 2022 20:16:53 +0200
> Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Stefano,
> >
> > On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 08:34:21PM +0200, Stefano Brivio wrote:
> > > In the overlap detection performed as part of the insertion operation,
> > > we have to skip nodes that are not active in the current generation or
> > > expired. This was done by adding several conditions in overlap decision
> > > clauses, which made it hard to check for correctness, and debug the
> > > actual issue this patch is fixing.
> > >
> > > Consolidate these conditions into a single clause, so that we can
> > > proceed with debugging and fixing the following issue.
> > >
> > > Case b3. described in comments covers the insertion of a start
> > > element after an existing end, as a leaf. If all the descendants of
> > > a given element are inactive, functionally, for the purposes of
> > > overlap detection, we still have to treat this as a leaf, but we don't.
> > >
> > > If, in the same transaction, we remove a start element to the right,
> > > remove an end element to the left, and add a start element to the right
> > > of an existing, active end element, we don't hit case b3. For example:
> > >
> > > - existing intervals: 1-2, 3-5, 6-7
> > > - transaction: delete 3-5, insert 4-5
> > >
> > > node traversal might happen as follows:
> > > - 2 (active end)
> > > - 5 (inactive end)
> > > - 3 (inactive start)
> > >
> > > when we add 4 as start element, we should simply consider 2 as
> > > preceding end, and consider it as a leaf, because interval 3-5 has been
> > > deleted. If we don't, we'll report an overlap because we forgot about
> > > this.
> > >
> > > Add an additional flag which is set as we find an active end, and reset
> > > it if we find an active start (to the left). If we finish the traversal
> > > with this flag set, it means we need to functionally consider the
> > > previous active end as a leaf, and allow insertion instead of reporting
> > > overlap.
> >
> > I can still trigger EEXIST with deletion of existing interval. It
> > became harder to reproduce after this patch.
> >
> > After hitting EEXIST, if I do:
> >
> > echo "flush ruleset" > test.nft
> > nft list ruleset >> test.nft
> >
> > to dump the existing ruleset, then I run the delete element command
> > again to remove the interval and it works. Before this patch I could
> > reproduce it by reloading an existing ruleset dump.
> >
> > I'm running the script that I'm attaching manually, just one manual
> > invocation after another.
>
> Ouch, sorry for that.
>
> It looks like there's another case where inactive elements still affect
> overlap detection in an unexpected way... at least with the structure
> of this patch it should be easier to find, I'm looking into that now.
...what a mess. I could figure that part out (it was a case symmetric
to what this patch fixed, in this case resolving to case b5.) but
there's then another case (found by triggering a specific tree topology
with 0044interval_overlap_1) where we first add a start element, then
fail to add the end element because the start element is completely
"hidden" in the tree by inactive nodes.
I tried to solve that with some backtracking, but that looks also
fragile. If I clean up the tree before insertion, instead, that will
only deal with expired nodes, not inactive nodes -- I can't erase
non-expired, inactive nodes because the API expects to find them at
some later point and call nft_rbtree_remove() on them.
Now I'm trying another approach that looks more robust: instead of
descending the tree to find overlaps, just going through it in the same
way nft_rbtree_gc() does (linearly, node by node), marking the
value-wise closest points from left and right _valid_ nodes, and
applying the same reasoning. I need a bit more time for this, but it
looks way simpler. Insertion itself would keep working as it does now.
In hindsight, it looks like it was a terrible idea to try to fix this
implementation. I really underestimated how bad this is. Functionally
speaking, it's not a red-black tree because:
- we can't use it as a sorted binary tree, given that some elements
"don't matter" for some operations, or have another colour. We might
try to think of it as some other structure and rebuild from there
useful properties of sorted binary trees, but I'm not sure a
"red-brown-black" tree would have any other use making it worth of
any further research
- end elements being represented as their value plus one also break
assumptions of sorted trees (this is the issue I'm actually facing
with backtracking)
- left subtrees store keys greater than right subtrees, but this
looks consistent so it's just added fun and could be fixed
trivially (it's all reversed)
By the way, I think we _should_ have similar issues in the lookup
function. Given that it's possible to build a tree with a subtree of at
least three levels with entirely non-valid nodes, I guess we can hide a
valid interval from the lookup too. It's just harder to test.
In the perspective of getting rid of it, I think we need:
1. some "introductory" documentation for nft_set_pipapo -- I just
got back to it (drawing some diagrams first...)
2. to understand if the performance gap in the few (maybe not
reasonable) cases where nft_set_rbtree matches faster than
nft_set_pipapo is acceptable. Summary:
https://lore.kernel.org/netfilter-devel/be7d4e51603633e7b88e4b0dde54b25a3e5a018b.1583598508.git.sbrivio@redhat.com/
3. a solution for https://bugzilla.netfilter.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1583,
it's an atomicity issue which has little to do with nft_set_pipapo
structures themselves, but I couldn't figure out the exact issue
yet. I'm struggling to find the time for it, so if somebody wants to
give it a try, I'd be more than happy to reassign it...
Anyway, I'll post a different patch for nft_set_rbtree soon.
--
Stefano
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-20 15:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-05-12 18:34 [PATCH nf] nft_set_rbtree: Move clauses for expired nodes, last active node as leaf Stefano Brivio
2022-05-16 18:16 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2022-05-17 12:57 ` Stefano Brivio
2022-05-20 15:45 ` Stefano Brivio [this message]
2022-05-23 14:59 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2022-05-25 12:15 ` Stefano Brivio
2022-06-01 11:15 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2022-06-03 13:04 ` Stefano Brivio
2022-06-06 9:01 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2022-06-14 9:58 ` Stefano Brivio
2022-06-16 9:08 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
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