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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v2 19/31] timers: net: Use del_timer_shutdown() before freeing timer
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2022 16:34:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221027163453.383bbf8e@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjAjW2P5To82+CAM0Rx8RexQBHPTVZBWBPHyEPGm37oFA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 27 Oct 2022 13:15:23 -0700
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 12:55 PM Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> >
> > I think we need to update this code to squeeze in a del_timer_shutdown() to
> > make sure that the timers are never restarted.  
> 
> So the reason the networking code does this is that it can't just do
> the old 'sync()' thing, the timers are deleted in contexts where that
> isn't valid.
> 
> Which is also afaik why the networking code does that whole "timer
> implies a refcount to the socket" and then does the
> 
>     if (del_timer(timer))
>            sock_put()
> 
> thing (ie if the del_timer failed - possibly because it was already
> running - you leave the refcount alone).

OK, so the above is assuming that the timer is always active, and
del_timer() returns if it successfully removed it (where it can call
sock_put()), but if del_timer() returns 0, that means the timer is
currently running (or about to be), so it doesn't call sock_put().

> 
> So the networking code cannot do the del_timer_shutdown() for the same
> reason it cannot do the del_timer_sync(): it can't afford to wait for
> the timer to stop running.
> 
> I suspect it needs something like a new "del_timer_shutdown_async()"
> that isn't synchronous, but does that
> 
>  - acts as del_timer in that it doesn't wait, and returns a success if
> it could just remove the pending case
> 
>  - does that "mark timer for shutdown" in that success case
> 
> or something similar.
>

What about del_timer_try_shutdown(), that if it removes the timer, it sets
the function to NULL (making it equivalent to a successful shutdown),
otherwise it does nothing. Allowing the the timer to be rearmed.

I think this would work in this case.

-- Steve


  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-27 20:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20221027150525.753064657@goodmis.org>
2022-10-27 15:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 19/31] timers: net: Use del_timer_shutdown() before freeing timer Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 19:55   ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 20:15     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-27 20:34       ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2022-10-27 20:48         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-27 21:07           ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 21:15             ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 22:35             ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-28 22:31               ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-28 22:46                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-10-30 17:22                   ` Paolo Abeni
2022-11-03 21:51                     ` Steven Rostedt
2022-11-04  0:00                       ` Eric Dumazet
2022-11-04  5:51                         ` Steven Rostedt
2022-11-04 16:14                           ` Guenter Roeck
2022-10-27 21:07         ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-28 15:16           ` Guenter Roeck
2022-10-27 23:13 Guenter Roeck

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