From: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
Cc: Daniel Xu <dxu@dxuuu.xyz>,
bpf@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
coreteam@netfilter.org, netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org,
fw@strlen.de, daniel@iogearbox.net, dsahern@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 0/7] Support defragmenting IPv(4|6) packets in BPF
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2023 17:44:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230627154439.GA18285@breakpoint.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874jmthtiu.fsf@toke.dk>
Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@redhat.com> wrote:
> > The basic idea is we bump a refcnt on the netfilter defrag module and
> > then run the bpf prog after the defrag module runs. This allows bpf
> > progs to transparently see full, reassembled packets. The nice thing
> > about this is that progs don't have to carry around logic to detect
> > fragments.
>
> One high-level comment after glancing through the series: Instead of
> allocating a flag specifically for the defrag module, why not support
> loading (and holding) arbitrary netfilter modules in the UAPI?
How would that work/look like?
defrag (and conntrack) need special handling because loading these
modules has no effect on the datapath.
Traditionally, yes, loading was enough, but now with netns being
ubiquitous we don't want these to get enabled unless needed.
Ignoring bpf, this happens when user adds nftables/iptables rules
that check for conntrack state, use some form of NAT or use e.g. tproxy.
For bpf a flag during link attachment seemed like the best way
to go.
At the moment I only see two flags for this, namely
"need defrag" and "need conntrack".
For conntrack, we MIGHT be able to not need a flag but
maybe verifier could "guess" based on kfuncs used.
But for defrag, I don't think its good to add a dummy do-nothing
kfunc just for expressing the dependency on bpf prog side.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-06-27 15:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-06-26 23:02 [PATCH bpf-next 0/7] Support defragmenting IPv(4|6) packets in BPF Daniel Xu
2023-06-26 23:02 ` [PATCH bpf-next 1/7] tools: libbpf: add netfilter link attach helper Daniel Xu
2023-06-27 0:11 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-06-26 23:02 ` [PATCH bpf-next 2/7] selftests/bpf: Add bpf_program__attach_netfilter helper test Daniel Xu
2023-06-26 23:02 ` [PATCH bpf-next 3/7] netfilter: defrag: Add glue hooks for enabling/disabling defrag Daniel Xu
2023-06-27 11:04 ` Florian Westphal
2023-06-26 23:02 ` [PATCH bpf-next 4/7] netfilter: bpf: Support BPF_F_NETFILTER_IP_DEFRAG in netfilter link Daniel Xu
2023-06-27 11:12 ` Florian Westphal
2023-06-27 15:35 ` Daniel Xu
2023-06-26 23:02 ` [PATCH bpf-next 5/7] bpf: selftests: Support not connecting client socket Daniel Xu
2023-06-26 23:02 ` [PATCH bpf-next 6/7] bpf: selftests: Support custom type and proto for client sockets Daniel Xu
2023-06-26 23:02 ` [PATCH bpf-next 7/7] bpf: selftests: Add defrag selftests Daniel Xu
2023-06-27 10:48 ` [PATCH bpf-next 0/7] Support defragmenting IPv(4|6) packets in BPF Florian Westphal
2023-06-27 14:18 ` Daniel Xu
2023-06-27 14:25 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2023-06-27 14:51 ` Daniel Xu
2023-06-27 15:44 ` Florian Westphal [this message]
2023-06-29 12:16 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2023-06-29 13:21 ` Florian Westphal
2023-06-29 14:35 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2023-06-29 14:53 ` Florian Westphal
2023-06-29 17:59 ` Daniel Xu
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