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From: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
To: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
Cc: netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, fw@strlen.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH nf 1/2] netfilter: nft_set_rbtree: move sync GC from insert path to set->ops->commit
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2023 10:10:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230930081038.GB23327@breakpoint.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZRdOxs+i1EuC+zoS@calendula>

Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org> wrote:
> - read spin lock is required for the sync GC to make sure this does
>   not zap entries that are being used from the datapath.

It needs to grab the write spinlock for each rb_erase, plus
the seqcount increase to make sure that parallel lookup doesn't
miss an element in the tree.

> - the full GC batch could be used to amortize the memory allocation
>   (not only two slots as it happens now, I am recycling an existing
>    function).

Yes.

> - ENOMEM on GC sync commit path could be an issue. It is too late to
>   fail. The tree would start collecting expired elements that might
>   duplicate existing, triggering bogus mismatches. In this path the
>   commit_mutex is held, and this set backend does not support for
>   lockless read,

It does.  If lockless doesn't return a match it falls back to readlock.

>   it might be possible to simply grab the spinlock
>   in write mode and release entries inmediately, without requiring the
>   sync GC batch infrastructure that pipapo is using.

Is there evidence that the on-demand GC is a problem?
It only searches in the relevant subtree, it should rarely, if ever,
encounter any expired element.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-30  8:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-29 16:44 [PATCH nf 1/2] netfilter: nft_set_rbtree: move sync GC from insert path to set->ops->commit Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-09-29 16:44 ` [PATCH nf 2/2] netfilter: nft_set_rbtree: remove async GC Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-09-29 22:25 ` [PATCH nf 1/2] netfilter: nft_set_rbtree: move sync GC from insert path to set->ops->commit Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-09-30  8:10   ` Florian Westphal [this message]
2023-10-01 20:10     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-01 21:08       ` Florian Westphal
2023-10-02  8:20         ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-02  8:47           ` Florian Westphal
2023-10-02 10:24             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-02 12:42         ` update element timeout support [was Re: [PATCH nf 1/2] netfilter: nft_set_rbtree: move sync GC from insert path to set->ops->commit] Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-02 13:58           ` Florian Westphal
2023-10-02 14:21             ` Florian Westphal
2023-10-03  8:22               ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-03  9:04                 ` Florian Westphal
2023-10-03  9:42                   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-03 18:24                     ` Florian Westphal
2023-10-04  8:30                       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-02 21:10             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-02 21:14               ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-02 14:23 ` [PATCH nf 1/2] netfilter: nft_set_rbtree: move sync GC from insert path to set->ops->commit Florian Westphal
2023-10-02 21:37   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-02 21:42   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso

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