From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>
Cc: netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFD] iptables: mangle table obsoletes filter table
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:23:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <470F7555.4090500@trash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200710121618.51046.a1426z@gawab.com>
Al Boldi wrote:
> Patrick McHardy wrote:
>
>>Al Boldi wrote:
>>
>>>Well, for example to stop any transient packets being forwarded. You
>>>could probably hack around this using mark's, but you can't stop the
>>>implied route lookup, unless you stop it in prerouting.
>>
>>This also works fine in FORWARD with a little extra overhead.
>>If you really have to save resources, you should use PREROUTING/raw
>>to also avoid the creation of a connection tracking entry.
>
>
> Yes sure, if you use nat.
Conntrack.
> But can you see how forcing people into splitting
> their rules across tables adds complexity. And without ipt_REJECT patch,
> they can't even use REJECT in prerouting, which forces them to do some
> strange hacks.
>
> IMHO, we should make things as easily configurable as possible, and as things
> stand right now, the filter-table is completely useless for 99% of
> use-cases.
Sure, as I said, patches to remove the arbitary restrictions to
tables are welcome, but please do this for all targets and
matches which allow this, not only REJECT. And if you include a
seperate (tested) patch for the IPv4 and IPv6 REJECT targets
I'll consider it as well.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-12 13:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <200710120031.42805.a1426z@gawab.com>
[not found] ` <470EF994.4080403@trash.net>
2007-10-12 4:39 ` [RFD] iptables: mangle table obsoletes filter table Patrick McHardy
2007-10-12 5:37 ` Al Boldi
2007-10-12 11:48 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-10-12 12:25 ` Al Boldi
2007-10-12 12:31 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-10-12 13:18 ` Al Boldi
2007-10-12 13:23 ` Patrick McHardy [this message]
2007-10-12 22:56 ` Al Boldi
2007-10-17 22:37 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-17 23:24 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-20 3:40 ` Al Boldi
2007-10-20 4:47 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-10-20 11:10 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-21 4:31 ` Al Boldi
2007-10-21 4:53 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-10-23 22:27 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-12 13:01 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-12 13:30 ` Al Boldi
2007-10-12 13:39 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-12 13:48 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-10-12 14:02 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-12 14:03 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-10-12 22:56 ` Al Boldi
2007-10-12 23:02 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-10-12 5:14 Al Boldi
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